…so…there’s no shortage of the “usual” sort of thing
Agencies across the federal government faced a Thursday deadline to submit plans for a large-scale firing of employees, but scant details were made public about what the White House said would be a “mass reduction” of the federal workforce.
The White House did not preview the plans, saying only that it would share their contents “once the plans are enacted.” What they contain could offer a view into how much further President Donald Trump and his Cabinet plan to alter the U.S. government, whose agencies include 2.3 million employees and serve daily functions from weather forecasting to cyberattack defense.
The Office of Personnel Management will work with the U.S. DOGE Service and the individual agencies to review each agency’s plans before reductions are made, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said. It was not immediately clear how many agencies had submitted plans ahead of the Thursday night deadline. DOGE, overseen by billionaire Elon Musk, stands for Department of Government Efficiency.
Much about how the reductions could be carried out is unknown — including what avenues for legal challenges may be open to fired workers. Reductions-in-force in the federal government are subject to complex rules and are typically undertaken methodically. The Trump administration, however, has sought to move quickly, leaving the process rife with questions, experts on federal workforce employment said.
White House expects ‘mass reduction’ of federal workforce as deadline looms [WaPo/archive.ph]
…these things don’t make for fun reading…& even if we stick to just the one place to pull ’em from…they…don’t exactly align neatly
Two federal judges on Thursday ordered the Trump administration to immediately offer jobs back to thousands of fired probationary workers as they imposed separate, broad roadblocks on the administration’s efforts.
The rulings — in Maryland and California — mark the most significant challenge so far to Trump’s campaign to shrink and reshape the sprawling, 2.3-million-person bureaucracy. Trump would now have to appeal and win in two, separate legal cases — or seek Supreme Court involvement — to get his workforce reduction effort back on course.
In Maryland, U.S. District Court Judge James K. Bredar required 18 federal agencies to rehire any probationary employees they had terminated since Jan. 20, when Trump took office, and to submit reports to the judge by March 17, outlining compliance with his order and naming each reinstated employee. His ruling came in response to a multistate lawsuit accusing the federal government of illegally terminating tens of thousands of probationary workers, arguing those firings were conducted in an opaque way that has overwhelmed state government support systems for unemployed workers and caused economic harm.
Hours earlier in San Francisco, U.S. District Judge William Alsup said at a court hearing that the Office of Personnel Management — which serves as the federal government’s human resources agency — had no legal authority to direct the mass firings in conference calls and written communications last month. He added that individual agencies could downsize their staffs by following the steps laid out in the federal Reduction in Force Act, a process that administration officials have already put in motion.
Judges order Trump officials to offer jobs back to thousands of fired workers [archive.ph/WaPo]
…but…in a different sense…it’s kinda hard not to look at them…& see it as in a bunch of ways just saying the same thing over & over
The Trump administration asked the Supreme Court on Thursday to allow U.S. officials to begin implementing a limited plan to end birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to undocumented immigrants and foreign visitors.
Judges in three states — Maryland, Massachusetts and Washington — have issued nationwide orders blocking Trump’s executive order, which civil rights groups and Democratic-led states say is clearly at odds with the nation’s history and the Constitution.
The order, signed on Trump’s first day back in the White House, is part of the administration’s broad offensive against illegal immigration. It directs the government to no longer recognize automatic citizenship for the babies of immigrant parents who are in the country without authorization, provided that neither parent is a U.S. citizen or legal permanent resident. The directive would also bar automatic citizenship for children born to noncitizen parents who are in the country on temporary work, student or tourist visas.
In its request to the Supreme Court, the administration asked the justices to limit the nationwide orders to the individuals or states involved in the litigation while those cases make their way through the court system, or to at least allow the relevant agencies to begin developing plans and issuing public guidance.
Trump asks Supreme Court to okay limited plan to end birthright citizenship
Lower court judges have blocked Trump’s initiative nationwide, saying it violates the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment. [WaPo/archive.ph]
…round & around we go…where we stop…nobody knows…but…it feels like we’re going some places…&…some of the folks with destinations in mind seem like they might be a danger behind the wheel…&…I dunno…somehow that seems like maybe a difference in degree as far as the ambient “mood music” of “events, dear boy, events“…hasn’t shifted much…the song remains the same might be a bit of an exaggeration…but the tone of the piece…that didn’t have a lot of room to go from where it was to something “bigger” in the ways that the shift in likely trajectory that arc of history is describing to pass through some classically troubled waters…analogies to the 30s abound…& the echo behind them is inevitably about the mistake it can be to declare “peace in our time”…& the militaristic immiseration of europe…but…not to get overly maudlin about it…it strikes me that the people I used to know who knew about living through that kind of thing…they didn’t say “never forget” because they were so sure it could never happen again that they thought the thing they fought against would be forgotten by humanity as it passed out of living memory & history would wonder why we ever fought any kind of war & they didn’t want to be painted as monsters who had no respect for the sanctity of life…they said that shit because they knew damn well that fight would never be over…that the appeal of that kind of power structure would ever sing its siren song to the very people who know they couldn’t get the support to put them in the positions of power…or give those the gradient they need in terms of an unbalanced dynamic with which to wield it…without the kinds of “cheat codes” you get by going that way…so…if there’s a god…may they have mercy on those souls…because they must be spinning in those graves…even the ones who saw no conflict between that “never forget” & calling it “the war to end all wars”…what with all the fuckery everyplace you look that seems to be nothing if it isn’t a bunch of wars looking to start clubbing together to form like fucking voltron…&…that’s on a “day of rest”
Environmental groups sound new alarm as fossil fuel lobby pushes for immunity [Guardian]
…sorry…wrong “war”
The UK government embracing AI? I’m sorry, that’s nonsense and I can prove it [Guardian]
…I’ll get it in a minute
Apple’s UK encryption legal challenge heard behind closed doors [Guardian]
…what do you mean I sound like I’m taking the piss…there are a lot of headlines & I can’t remember where I put the one I was…oh…you mean not making your argument for nobody getting to shut out eavesdroppers in a place you wouldn’t want anyone listening you didn’t know was meant to be…while also saying you were all aboard what is effectively a techy version of the classical magic black box that you can’t meaningfully take to pieces in a way that lets you know for sure it isn’t doing anything but what you want it to…all of which being relevant specifically on account of the primacy of the economic role played by industries that would probably look some kind of different if those fossil fuel interests had to settle the tab they ran up getting us here…you’re saying that’s *me* taking the piss…huh…maybe…I’d call it an occupational hazard I suppose…we’ve all got our preoccupations…I have at least a few that don’t make an appearance hereabouts…but…those don’t feel like they’re much use to the exercise it feels like I’m engaged in…maybe that’s wrong, too…maybe what I’m doing isn’t what I think I’m doing, after all
…I know…this isn’t what I “usually” do…it’s normally less me talking by ratio to how much text I slap together out of other people’s mouths…& I can’t help it that it turning out that way feels…indulgent…when by sheer proportion of scrollable inches of text I already feel like I’m out here trying to speak quietly while wearing a hot mic…so…what the fuck, amirite?
…if you can feel that’s what you’re doing…& it isn’t the thing you think you want to be doing…& ain’t nobody got a gun to your head* making you do it…what’s stopping you from doing something else?
…I don’t know that I have an answer for that…at least not one that doesn’t make me very possibly far enough over the crazy line for people to be muttering about how the line is a dot to me…& how maybe in uppercase that’s funny…because…I mentioned in the brain drain yesterday that I was talking to someone & wound up with a hankering to re-visit some flicks…that whole thing came out of a joke…that if you “join the DOTs”…& don’t believe me when I say I don’t expect a particular result from any of them so that can’t help me avoid it being on target…then that’s a lot of “doing the same thing & expecting a different result”…if the result is assumed to be the world starting to agree with me about what’s crazy rather than file me away as yet another crazy in my own right…right?
…the straight story…stubborn dude takes slow road to a matter of urgency…get low…unpopular cantankerous bastard gets snake-oil-salesman-with-tarnished-heart-of-gold to turn his funeral into a carnival he gets to attend…when the last sword is drawn/the twilight samurai…when the values of an age & the passage of a time get remodelled for a new era…what does it mean to model the bits you’d be best advised to hang on to
…if someone’s got to be crazy for the picture to make sense…is it “you”…I guess it’s worth asking from time to time even if this seems like a good example of why maybe doing it every day might be a tad…impractical
…so…anyway…this is late & I don’t know yet if I plan to go back & pack more links in above this part…but I’m pretty sure I know what I aim to put between here & the tunes…so I’ll go ahead & loft it into place in case anyone’s up early & feeling chatty
…maybe I don’t “remember the last war”…maybe I’m still trying to fight it instead of the one we’re all in…there are a lot of classic blunders that aren’t getting involved in a land war in asia, after all…but…just maybe…I’m trying to be the change I want to see in the world…which is a suggestion I wouldn’t voluntarily make…but some friend of mine that thinks they’re funny did one time when I tried to explain what I thought I got out of doing all this instead of just going back to my calling as an inveterate lurker online who was…effectively…under a self-imposed vow of silence
…a bit much, I assume you’d agree…not to do any of your good selves down…but…deadsplinter isn’t a town square…it’s more like a village local…the food’s pretty good…there’s a nice warm fire when the weather’s cold…nobody makes you wear a tie…your credit’s good…& the regulars are a pretty decent bunch
…kinja, though…kinja was pretty different…if you overthink the thing…or maybe are the right sort of intoxicated…& squint at it right…you could argue it had some microscopic properties that gave it a passing resemblance to a canary in a macroscopic coal mine…&…chatting to the sorts of folks I did back then IRL…it was a context I usually needed to spend some time explaining before they could see why I’d fuck with it ATL..much less read the comments
…I know some pretty smart people…some of them are even what you might call successful…some of them attended august institutions & have letters after their names…some of those did that without attending the sorts of schools that cost more than taxes…some of them lived in buildings that had the word “castle” in the top line of the mailing address…some of them lived in caravans long enough to have the courts grant them ownership of the land it sat on…some of them went on to work in sectors that shower you with riches enough to retire “early”…some of them worked their whole lives…some of them scraped by financially in order to teach…or do outreach work in prisons or with homeless people or “youths”…from time to time a few of them even did things of sufficient consequence for me to spot their name in a ‘paper…none of them gave a fuck about what went on with kinja…few of them would indulge me long enough to get their head around why it held my interest
…but…for a moment…for reasons I shall never fully comprehend…a small thing I did resulted in big fun for me…the slow demise of a venue in which I could find a broad & amusing collection of voices I could dip in & out of to see what I was missing about the stuff I could read about elsewhere hit a point where my access to it had a step-change in loss of convenience…& at some point after I got over my incredulousness at it being electorally viable to be orange a straw had broken the camel’s back & cracked a dam & I’d started arguing with trolls in the greys of kinja-as-was…I didn’t expect many people to be taking the kind of time they’d need to for that system to put what I was saying in front of them…I knew it was in many ways a pointless task…but it didn’t seem to do any harm & it let me discover what in fact happened when things I would have been easily persuaded most would ignore as obvious bollocks of one variety or another were offered that perspective
…& it let me talk to fellow comic-book & movie nerds
…I did that long enough that I got a pretty decent grasp of how kinja functioned as a system…honestly it was sort of amazing that way…if you poked about enough the documentation was available & some of the functions people had cobbled together out of it were pretty great…if you know why when one guy called ernie left the dev team I felt the need to send the benny hill song about the milk float their way in tribute…you’d know what I’m talking about
…along the way I also learned some other stuff…I might have forgotten a lot because a lot’s happened since then but oh, so many moons ago I studied, among some other stuff, some bits & pieces about ethics & moral philosophy & theory of mind & cause & effect & simple principles & emergent properties & complex systems & the power of iteration…& about the…for want of a better term…functional mechanics of language & logic & what some refer to as “formal argument”…no biggie…lots of folks did that sort of thing one way or another…but I couldn’t do much about the bits of that which informed the way I…interrogated kinja…or the way that it spotlit some stuff about how & why certain sorts of keyboard warriors approached the thing with the kinds of “engineering” they employed…it could be…for want of a better term…subtle…& in some senses it was since the goal was pretty much always…for the “better” ones…to be read as other than they were expressly to thwart a conversation they wanted to murder in its crib…some of them were almost admirable in terms of how successful they were…on splinter in particular I can recall one who almost always had their comments raised into the visible spectrum who would nuke the replies back to what they thought was a favorable mic drop on their part upwards of a few dozen times in a day across the bridgeheads they’d set on a single post…the sheer time commitment alone required to run that one account…was a legitimate job of work that didn’t seem like it could be covered by a legitimate check…& it was beyond clear that many bad faith users of the platform had “alts” like you’ve had hot dinners…some even had enough pride in their craft that they had a sort of nomenclature that to varying degrees flagged the affiliation of individual sock-puppets…tomatoface being the great white whale of the genre in so far as the popular lexicon had it…but…imho…in fact being arguably closer to the exception that proved some rules for me…mind you that’s a whole different post…probably a series, to be honest…if I tried to explain what trying to get my head around what sort of person was behind that effort…& to what purpose…starting with the myth & working back through the market-place to figure out the forgeries & identify the real mccoy & then speculate to accumulate some sketchy knowledge to try to shade in over time…& what that seemed to teach me about what…it’s not wholly implausible there might be a book in that, even…& as some wag once had it…everybody’s got a book in ’em…but most of us have the good grace to keep it there
…so…irony of ironies…that wasn’t what I was about…in the sense that I seem to have set about this post even if it doesn’t appear to rise to the sense of the damn thing seeming to be about much in particular
…something something…road to hell…something…intentions…something…plans…something…mice & men…something something…[insert-laughing-deity-here]
…anyway…if we continue to pretend I might be going someplace with all of this…where was I trippin’ along?
…ah, yes…kinja tripping up my access to the voices you could find in the comments at splinter by blowing up the spot…& why I did the next bit…because all that shit I was on about I learned mostly because it was the cost of doing business if your business was dredging the pig-swill for the pearls on offer…I was more of a mudlark than a muckraker, you might say…so…I wasn’t going to miss the trolls & the griefers & the brigaders & the keyboard warriors…or most of the shit-posters…but it was going to take an effort where it didn’t used to for me to hear what the names I was always pleased to see bob up were saying for themselves…& those made me feel like maybe I wasn’t losing my mind…& even made me crack a smile or maybe laugh or bob my head in time to a beat…which had value to me
…& like the little knowledge that’s a dangerous thing…I thought I saw a way…if some enterprising soul had previously automated a process to turn every document issued by the white house to the press pool into a kinja post…I could build myself a “feed” in my very first “alt” that was just comments from that crowd of folks I didn’t know & wouldn’t hear from otherwise…that’s what I thought I was doing…more or less entirely for selfish reasons I believed to be of interest to very-probably-nobody-that-wasn’t-me
…that part…I turned out rather wonderfully to be spectacularly wrong about…wrong enough for my conscience to take about 24hrs to start in on me about finding out how to give away whatever it could potentially be to as many of the people who seemed like they might like that as could be tapped on the shoulder & handed the flyer…& that turned out to be a lot of people…so it’s not like I could just do that on my own without losing my mind & probably any realistic chances of steady employment for however long I tried to keep up with the snowball as it rolled down the hill…or the boulder if you prefer to think of me as being in front of the thing on account of this feeling like you’re scrolling down but rolling one of those uphill on your day off with no guarantee you’ll like the view if you ever get to the top…which is the bottom…I know…terrible analogy…where was I?
…figuring out that the previously available functionality with which “proper” sub-blogs at kinja had been created had been quietly deprecated while leaving the documentation available to suggest that it hadn’t, I believe that would be…so…as I became we…we…made it up as we went…the whole thing was kludged together out of work-arounds, basically
…except one part…oddly…the one part it would seem like kinja didn’t have at all if you were a casual observer who never once left the verticals…how it looked when the un-fucked-with moderation system worked if actually used in what its functional characteristics strongly suggested being the way it was designed to
…& for a few short weeks a few thousand people that probably spent a bit too much time online at the time pretty much threw a round the clock party that didn’t get crashed until “the powers that be” nuked the site from orbit just to be sure
…& we…found a workaround…until they nuked *all* those sites from orbit…& I’m pretty sure some people who’d put years into some of those spots feel like our little runaway train was a proximate enough cause for it to have been exactly as selfish as the altogether different & totally harmless thing I’d originally set out to do…but…some of us remember…& if you can phrase the question *just right*…like they say…the internet never forgets
…even when most of us never remember the other verses to the thing we all know because we’ve heard it so many times
…in case it isn’t obvious by now…the one who made the crack about me being crazy is one of the few people that wasn’t “there” that’s held still long enough for me not to have to explain it all from the beginning so they’re basically comatose before we’re through with establishing context for the parts that might be interesting…& from their point of view…all that might be all very well & not even necessarily a figment of my personal imagination being over-susceptible to your common-or-garden mind-virus…or…err…meme…if you want to throw etymological gauntlets at the feet of culture warriors or whatever…which I don’t particularly…but getting shit off my chest in as muffled as spot as I can think of without there being literally no difference between keeping it to myself & the sort of off my head it represents…might be one of them distinctions without a difference
…so far…for reasons which may sometimes surpass my understanding…but have none the less long cemented a claim to my undying gratitude…you lot have put up with it anyway…& in the odd heroic case actually summoned the ability to make it sound like it might not be entirely viewed as an imposition
…& even the one that thinks they’re funny agrees a verifiable by product has been the evening of my keel these several years…because they know damn well I haven’t mellowed with age living through this iteration of the modern age…so it’s fairly clear to them what I get out of it even if they can’t much see what anyone else would be getting out of my part of it
…well…they say that…but…they do tend to think they’re funny…& they can get a mite cute if they think they might be able to tell you a joke you’d find funny while missing the one they’re quietly giggling to themselves about…so…that part is what got me to the part that got me to starting where I did with this today & getting down here the way I did
…it’s not “normal”…but…to me…trapped in my own perspective…it still is normal in that none of that stuff going through my head is unusual in any sense that seems to matter…&…I don’t love how accurate it feels to say that about the stuff these are usually filled with…they’re the normal stuff talking about the normal stuff because some things never go out of style & the style of the times is that everything old is new again & somehow a surprise despite all the alarm bells & flashing lights & explosions & things getting lit on fire
…but…that only gets to be normal if we all act like it’s the sort of normal that can’t be helped…& not the sort of not-normal that requires being treated that way if we ever expect to be able to agree on a normal that’s got a shot at a goal with more of an upside than “maybe we slow down how fast things get worse” the way we don’t let the heat death of the universe’s inevitability stop us getting out of bed to face another day…but one where the room for improvement is the part that’s thriving…so…I thought maybe I’d give them a taste of their own medicine…because sculling around somewhere I could find things they said from way back to try to pay back them serving me that link from the wayback machine like it was a mic drop moment
…&…well…I couldn’t present them like a playlist the way I could that akala-fire-in-the-booth/ren-money-game run at the back end of thursday’s playlist.. but that someone that I used to spend a lot of time with around that SplinterRIP-on-kinja time…isn’t really a rapper…in fact they would most probably laugh if you said that about them…but has hung out a fair bit over the years with some people who like to do that…in front of the public in some cases…but also in front of those rapping types…& in my hearing to boot…& some of that…I have the receipts for
…& they said some things about some things back then…one of them they even let someone browbeat them into setting out with a refrain/chorus type repeated bit…but I can’t serve them up with a wicked beat & the author’s intonation like the akala/ren stuff…so they might sound different in your head to the way they do in mine…either way…this one…with the “chorus”…they said that in ’14…around the mid-terms before the US threw the game away rather than vote for a lady they didn’t like enough not to pick the actual worst guy…they claim they were talking about “I dunno – a bunch of stuff, I guess…it kinda depends on who you think is saying which parts to who & what looks parallel to that & where you think your vanishing point is on what sort of horizon”…which is sort of like them…in that it also sounds like you can almost squint your hearing until it says “great question I totally didn’t think I answered by writing the thing – how about you stick your head up your ass & see if you find the answer…I’ll wait”
…anyway…that one starts “this ain’t that conversation, son” & goes like this
this ain’t that conversation,
sonthat time may come
but this ain’t the onetake it from me, right now
– this is done& what’s coming next
ain’t no kind of funyou need to go home
& start againgrab a pad
& a fucking pen& use them eyes
to see what lieswithin
your ken’cause maybe it might happen,
thensure, you can do it
your own waykeep right on
railing awayclaim you can’t listen
you got so much to saybut holding forth
ain’t holding sway>>>>chorus
so you hold US
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right here, todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
like just how
can life vary
in line with the fee?
if this
proactive, protectiveaggressively-defensive
spreeis just
the waythings have
to bejust how how far
can we stray from the tree& still claim to know
what it is to be free?they got keystrokes logged
& CCTVthey got bio-metrics
& the family treethey’re tracking motions
we can’t even seeso just how the hell is it
that they still can’t see me?>>>>>>chorus
so you hold us
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right here, todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
I may be sat here
but my mind’s on the runso I don’t even know
what it is that I’ve done& in its eye stands my conscience
& he’s holding a gun[*]
[* – …see…gun to head…say hello to your own petard, smart-ass]& his gaze burns like a nova
that once was a sunwhich, for sure,
is a fearsome sightbut I ain’t going gentle
& this ain’t been a good nightI got more questions than answers
but that don’t make *you* rightso bring what you got
but what you’ll get is a fight>>>>chorus
so you hold us
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right here, todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
& now that I’m looking
I’m starting to seewhy he’s all fired up & packing,
finally’cause what has him riled
isn’t actually me& now I see the point
I’m inclined to agreebetween heaven & hell
lies a state of gracethat don’t much resemble
what I’ve seen of *this* placebut if we clearly just
can’t hack the pacewhy insist that life’s journey
is only a race?>>>>chorus
so you hold us
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right here, todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
welcome to my
imaginationyou may prefer
to change the stationno guarantees offered
by the state of this mindthough I’ve never known
for it to treat *me* kind
wonders past numbers
may lie withinbut still beware
what you beginas was writ
on maps of oldof far off lands
from tales bold‘here be dragons’
have a careso hitch them wagons
if you dare>>>>>chorus
so you hold us
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right here, todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
you get what
you pay forin this life
& the free-ride
through this dooris paid for
in strifeso leisure prospects
are poor& hazards
are rifewhere words
don’t just scorebut flay you
like a knifelike nature
red in tooth & clawalways a widow
& never a wifemother to all
& eternally rawdeath ain’t so fearsome
compared to lifechorus<<<<<
so you hold us
in your handsstomach in, chest out
hurling commands’cause the whole world’s lost
its wayin an entropic trance
of wilful decayso you mark my words
right, here – todaybecause this fate
that we refuse to faceis going to invade
our personal space& just like the truth
in many waysit’s starting to look
like it’s seen better dayschorus<<<<<
& if we aren’t left
to our own deviceshow are we supposed
to figure out what nice is?or recognise
the signs of vices?or what the difference
between men & mice is?what’s coming next ain’t
no kind of funtake it from me
right now – this is donethat time may come
but this ain’t the onethis ain’t that conversation
son
…I mean…& I mean it in a way less cheeky than it sounds…you wonder what goes on in their head(s)?
as a melody guides
one heart to sing
but leaves another
broken, twisted anewso the mind’s eye’s
a fragile thing
a singular infinite vista
from a room with no viewthine own self’s self
a you within a you
wisdom borne of stealth
of notice given tounheard words
& sights unseen
tastes unsavoured
& maybe could have beensas though mind
from mind withdrew
to lend in kind
to thought reality’s hueso if insight strikes
with fading sight
is it any wonder
many find delightsetting mind to wander
long into the night
chasing shades
of ideas brightto mark the sight
with all their might
for all it may
in turn incitein hopes they might
forestall the light
& set somehow
the world to rightsa world in which
dawn greets each day
as sure as each
must find their waywhile the current’s
currency holds sway
among the tides who’d
have their saydissent’s descent
can often seem a rise
time’s own daughter
in another guisefor in the end
the part that flies
untethered glides
through endless skiesas those one finds
behind closed eyes
…you can feel sorry for them if you like…they’d probably appreciate it…definitely more than they’ll appreciate me putting that stuff where people they don’t know could catch sight of it…but…honestly…they really did bring that part on themselves…that said…in the 10 years that have gone by since they said that shit where I could hear it…I don’t think I can say much I like the sounds of when it comes to our “consider rate”…& I wouldn’t say they’d done anything to particularly make *that part* their fault in a way it isn’t all of ours
take your time
have second thoughts
& thirdsthey may flit or soar like birds
flock or swarm or run in herds
or spoil the way that spilt milk curdsthey’re cheaper than the thinnest dime
wisdom or folly, reason or rhyme
in thought will not be found the crimemake of all those thoughts a train
forge link by link opinion’s chainso that even under strain
these may yet a course maintainthis is why there should be oughts
holding fast among those thoughts
judgement though there be no courtsfor frontiers breed the staunchest forts
before at last they’re cast as words
or dug in deep
& left to steep
behind a wall
that’s no less tallour own thoughts are ours alone
but words once spoken then are sown& thus their fruit is ours to own
ours the marrow of that boneconsider it
or themtheir merits pit
against their flawstest them for their shape & fit
find out just what sort of hit
might split
or bend
or break their laws& frankly then appraise the cause
a harder task if in poor light
though strain you may with all your might
though you may fight with fervour bright
to catch the sight of wrong or rightdialogue should not berate
a tendency, if left too late
that seals up its starting gate
leaving swift yet baseless hatethat hardens to a settled state
but rises fresh to every bait
which is why I would debate
the pace of our consider-rateif you set that rate too low
consideration’s hard to show
if you don’t at least attempt to know
what’s against or with the flow
of current, tide or undertowor would you trust
your judgement just
when its foundations lie in dust –
a train of thought long left to rust?considerate –
though writ as ‘rate –
we rhyme with ‘ut
an almost utterance
that’s not by chancea row that’s hoed
by a simple stance
an honour bestowed
that can be paid at a glanceyou’ll find there’s really nothing to the trick
no hoop to jump or box to tick
if there’s a body politic
what fool sets out to make it sick?politic or polity
there’s us & them
& you & me
the few & the manyin the kingdom of we
it never hurts to be polite
for the only glorious war
is the one we don’t fight.
…I dunno folks…I ain’t exactly planning on going anywhere this-place-wise…& I appreciate y’all’s company more than you might be inclined to believe…but I feel like things not being normal being normal for so long that in half as long again there’ll be people voting who never knew it any other way…& here we are already forgetting the never-forget we carved with fucking nukes
…&…I don’t want to get all carried away…to the bouncy-walls hotel or the end-times bunker…but…you lot…as a mostly-pretty-merry-all-things-considered bunch of random pseudo-anonymous internet-friends of…some years now…if…when the something that’s seemingly got to give…gives out on us all…& if part of that giving blows up our little spot somehow…the way they nuked the kinja sub-blogs from fucking orbit, say…if not from the wayback machine if you have some way to stumble upon the memory you’re looking for
…& some stuff we say ages better than other stuff…like bill hicks talking about “the” war in iraq, say…most of us can’t pull that sort of thing off from beyond the grave that way
…but…the person who said that stuff I can’t produce a link to the audio of…I still hear from them from time to time…& they seem pretty content to say they meant it then & they don’t think they mean it any less now…& that strikes me as not a terrible thing to hope to get to say of the things we say long after they’re said & done
…so…for the record…or at least a record I hope we don’t one day have to hope the internet archive crawled & stashed somewhere we might even find it
…it’s been an actual pleasure, folks…at least for me?
…speaking of what some folks like that others might not…this one might be a bit heavy on the tastes I seem to have acquired…so if that’s not your cup of tea it’d only be fair to mention up front that the last one runs about an hour all on its own?
are you okay mate?
that only took a couple minutes to read through
anyways…2 months
thats all it took to move american arms from the gold standard to cant be trusted
we has an 800 billion dollar commitment to buying our own shit now
good job
…ummm…not sure quite how to answer that…but when the rest of the post turns up & you start to wonder if that should have said “hours” not minutes…probably wouldn’t object to a second opinion on whether it sounds like I might not be?
…you’re not wrong about the bits after the question…but if I ever find my way to the end of the typing part the bulk of what’s liable to show up above either isn’t about that or just makes it sound worse…& I have never much relished the side-effect of this that makes me feel like the voice of doom on people’s day off…so…I figure it could go either way & the jury’s out
…but it’s fixing to take a while so if you felt like spamming the joint with tunes…it’d probably be a kindness to all concerned?
God bless America!
…have I told you lately you’re a legend in your own lifetime?
you havent but its nice to hear
kinda needed a little pick me up
…I can keep ’em coming if you have time to keep these coming?
and because i have to for some odd reason…it may be my genes
you know….giving me carte blanche to spam music is not a good idea right?
…so far it’s hands down the best one I’ve had since I got up this morning…which definitely says better things about you than me
…don’t lie…you’re trying to beguile me into making a joke with a punchline that starts “one in the pink…”
…I mean…well played that man & everything…but you’re going to get me in trouble with @elliecoo & we can’t very well have that, now
…although I’d still appreciate your company just as much if we were stuck in the doghouse until it was go-back-to-work-time…& I know *your* name isn’t misery
…so…dunno if that catches me up on my side of this deal…but I count more than one thing in there that has you & being picked up in common…so I’m calling that my two-I-mean-three-fer?
…that’s a fitting epitaph to run us out to the part where the reply button dies out
…but…I would attend more church services if they sounded like your playlists?
found one last reply….i think
and im right there with you on attending church if it sounded like that
course id also attend church if it sounded like this
i may have taken a lot of drugs over the years tho….
…hmm…what sounds like a pick me up after that sort of a workout?
…I could offer you water from a vine leaf, if you think that might hit the spot?
…by the by…this lady did seem to be talking about that stuff so I figured I’d leave that here while I was fishing for musical accompaniments?
Citizenship arguments set my hair on fire. Even before the 14th Amendment, in the original Constitution itself, for those strict Constitutionalists, Article II, Section 1:
They had to throw that in because they were all still technically British. The first President who actually was born in the real independent US, Martin Van Buren, was our 8th. Another trivia point: He is the only US president whose native language wasn’t English. He came from a good Hudson Valley Dutch family. I mean today, we have a President who speaks and TWEETS GIBBERISH about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and TARIFFS—Oh God, I have to lie down.
…I’m not sure I’d advise getting up for it…but the bulk of the post is about to show up…& I’m pretty sure some time after that at least one of you is going to suggest that I go have a lie down of my own?
…if we’re all lucky that won’t be incompatible with capping things off with those missing tunes…but I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting
…some of you might at that point be rather wishing I’d hold mine since I’d probably pass out before I got back that way?
So, how’s being spineless working out? Turns out, not so good.
The Democratic Party has a big problem on its hands
…wait until they find out what kind of tab pulling all the DOGE-y shit racked up & charged to their rooms
You know, I 100% agree that the dems strategy so far has been stand around and say someone should do something about this!
However, the polls like that one infuriate me because we have 1 party who is hellbent on turning this shithole country into Gilead from A Handmaid’s Tale and we have the other party that doesn’t.
Sure, I wish I felt that democrats cared more about jobs or “valuing work” whatever the fuck bootstraps pandering to the right that is (feels like a dogwhistle to criticize welfare queens etc).
But also I don’t want to be shipped off to work in the nuclear wastelands along with the other unwomen when they find out I don’t have fallopian tubes anymore. Which means I need to vote democrat regardless of how much I think democrats value hard work.
I’m guessing (hoping) that this is voters trying to send a message to stop enabling republican bullshit and actually behave like liberals.
The problem, of course, is that whenever the democrats hear that they’re not as popular as the republicans, their first reaction is to be more republican.
Then they wonder why their numbers suck even more.
They’re hearing it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/democratic-party-hits-new-polling-low-voters-want-fight-trump-harder-rcna196161
But are they listening????
…some of ’em…but some of ’em didn’t hear the way it sounded that they literally went into a “retreat” together…forget where…& assume this sort of thing would be what they were discussing
…while gavin newsome was discussing things with charlie kirk & steve bannon to post online as…whatever sort of outreach exercise you might choose to call that
…I try…but I can’t for the life of me understand the “how” that “they” go about even some of the stuff they’re doing even when I can understand most of the thinking behind what gets you from where they say they’re coming from to what they think they’re doing?
“Just 7% say those views are “very” positive.” — would be fascinating to know which districts those were in.
I do like a DOT that forces me to do outside research to understand.
…I knew you were my people…but…I really do thank you for saying that
…I spend more time arguably talking to myself than I have been led to believe is considered either appropriate or healthy so it does help to think somebody somewhere might get something out of the parts that spill on to these pages other than the old eye-roll-finger-scroll workout?
Hey now. Cut it out with being concerned about talking to yourself.
A ridiculously intelligent college professor with a psychologist wife told my class that it’s okay to talk to yourself. It’s definitely okay to answer yourself. You only stray into concern territory if you talk to yourself, answer yourself, and then ask “what?” because you don’t understand your answer to yourself.
…this is my new favorite thing ever at least for the rest of today
Right? You’re totally fine talking to yourself up to the threshold where ope! it might be multiple personalities happening.
i just drove through an almost tornado for two hours and damn near died on several occasions whilst trying to come up with an even half decent response (or question) to one of the infinite (if you really dug into what jake means line by line and how deep you could go) things i’d like to drop BTL but there’s so much that it’s more of a where-do-i-even-begin thing as opposed to a writer’s block thing.
i’ll never get the movie/tv/comic references but i’m getting used to the british colloquialisms at least?
i’d very much appreciate the opportunity to confront whomever suggested he was taking the piss face to face.
@SplinterRIP @Farscythe I’m abdicating my role as acceptable language police. Speak your truth. For the next four years I suspect that there will be very few days which don’t deserve the use of “c**t”, at least in discussions of current events (tragedies) in this internet neighborhood. Because for better or worse this crowd does care about each other and the world…we still have fucks to give. Give ’em hell, gentlemen.
…y’all heard the nice lady
…don’t make nobody have to tap the sign or nothing…but it might be grown-up time for this next stretch?
@elliecoo i dont feel like sullying a perfectly good word on those two fuckwits.
Heard and understood @Farscythe.
hold the phone @splinterrip @farscythe
if either of you intends to use your newfound freedom i’d at least like a heads up and a context explanation because better people than me (ie. @elliecoo and others) have me fully convinced that that isn’t a word for which i should feel comfortable being responsible…so…
as the person who has accepted the legal ramifications for everything everyone has ever typed (or will type) here as opposed to having a tos i could point to when trump decides to cart some asses to the concentration camps for the words they type, i’d prefer that specific word not affiliated with my george carlin-like dipping into boiling crisco on live television, thank you kindly.
…duly noted
…&…once I consult with my lawyers I don’t have on retainer…I promise to reserve it for defensible purposes
…the defense rests…if it please the court?
the only reason cunt isnt acceptable is coz americans get offended
and they misoginized it
its not us whats offensive…its yous whats overly sensefuckintive
noted
shall i reach out to see about switching the ds host to aussieville where we can make the c-word mandatory?
would that be cheaper?
coz if so you fucking should
tbh i dont get why you are getting your panties in a twist about this
once upon a time i was asked to please not use a word
and i said okay
i dont see the issue….but i have other words i can use
…in fairness to myo…@elliecoo saying that rule might be appropriate to relax is like flying the flag upside down
…& myo is where a lot of bucks stop if the big bucks decide to make life legally interesting for us chickens in our little hen house
…I don’t think the panties are all that bunched on their own behalf but you & I probably ought to remember we’re in polite company & some people with no sense or humor that mysteriously haven’t died from that spend a lot of money on lawyers so they don’t have to see things they don’t like to…&…myo is between that sort of spectre & us mouthing off when we feel like it
…more or less?
@SplinterRIP, exactly! Flying the flag upside down is the exact anology. Also I am resigning from any self-appointed role of word police. It feels short sighted to clutch my pearls over verbiage when our democracy is becoming a fascist state. @Myopicprophet apologies for opening a can of worms.
…no harm, no foul…barely even a flag on the play
…unless I was misinformed as to what that means, I suppose?
@elliecoo you’re not opening a can of worms. i am, and forever will be, on your side.
…& so say all of us
…unless some of us plan on being on not-speaking terms with me?
honestly…..getting told not to brings out the worst in me
and i now have a strong urge to run around with a double bird yelling fuck you myo…
yo myo…. fuck you…
love you too
am i reminding you of your crazy ex yet?
@SplinterRIP I got some suggestions for you…
and if that doesn’t work, a little less positivity from my favorite poet…
…still poking youtube to try to get a few things I was looking for to fall out but I saw one or two other things in the sidebar along the way that made me say “huh? what’s that about, then?”…so…here’s a couple of those?
…know who doesn’t appear to be quitting? …this guy
…so I guess we got that going for us?
I’ve missed a bunch of DOT’s lately, has this already been covered?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-mar-a-lago-accord-explained-trump-s-ultimate-plan-to-reshape-the-dollar-and-america-s-debt/ar-AA1zUMQ2
…I don’t know as it’s been “covered”…but if you allow for some of that “strategic” but also “national” currency reserve being adjusted to contain crypto picked by a guy whose my-name-meme-coin rug-pulled the people who put him in that chair where he can wield the sharpie?
…kinda…in that parts of it have certainly come up in a bunch of ways that make it sound like you have to be crazy or shady or crazy-shady to want to do a bunch of the stuff they say they want to…much less to go about doing it the ways they visibly are?
boop
…not saying I *want* to deter you from keeping this up all day…or saying our deal makes that fishing for compliments…those are free…you’re welcome…but there might be a playlist-shaped distraction at the bottom of the post now…& whether or not that throws you off this particular stride…aware as I am that “with [you] it’s a full-time job” & I just go for pleasure cruises in amongst the screeming eels of youtube’s waters…the ren ones if nothing else are arguably a tribute to the good influence you’ve been to my recs…pretty sure you were the first person to point me in that direction…& it’s a rewarding ride…so…ta muchly?
ill check it out and stfu….for now
but you know…..once you let pandora out of the box…theres no putting it back
…you…my good sir…are the hope pandora had left to try to deal with everything that’s out of the box
…& anyone that says different you can tell ’em I sez they ain’t listening properly
pretty sure i am chaos but hey ill take it
flattery will get you where ever you want babes
…wait…I actually have one for this?
…am I doing this right?
…that’s supposed to be encouragement…just to be sure I said that part loudly where people could blame me for it?
nailed it mate 😀
you know back to back…..ren has a lot of wu in his sound
…pretty sure he’d be happy to own up to it, too
fwiw….this playlist is pretty sweet….i might just save it in its entirety…..its kind of…a vibe
…I thought the deal of the day was you supplied tunes & I said nice things about you
…we appear to have got turned around somehow…that’s probably why reading that left me feeling lightheaded?
[FWIW I think they’re links to “unlisted” but public playlists if you’re on youtube itself so there’s probably a way to select those if you ever want a whole one?]
…my youtube-fu isn’t strong enough to produce a link to what you get if you’re me & click on the playlists tab so I can’t offer all of them like a catalogue but I think they’d all have a link like this…which would list them (hopefully) in a column on the right with a left margin in which the options from the dropdown offer either or both of the options to “save” or “add all to”?
tbh…i forgot we had a deal the moment you tole me to go for it
the music took over
you know kinda like the lego movie
me in one word is SPACESHIP!
…spaceship guy was the lego movie saying to me in its clearest voice “you, yes – you…this is a movie we thought you specifically would get a kick out of”
…so…feel free to get creative?
okay
…all the way from
…to
…umm
…err
…uhhh…as you were, I guess?
…I refer you to my above multiple choice response…these were here when I said that…& I said what I said…so help me?
you good mate
is a fun fight i have regularly on oppo tho
for some reason americans assume i support the royals coz im european
as ellie gave me permission…i will use my powers one time and one time only
the royals can get fucked as they are a bunch of useless cunts
they have no purpose in this world beyond being pompous fucks with big hats
…see, myo…if they press charges there’s a lot of juries in one land in particular…that isn’t even france…who’d defend that one to the same hilt they’d happily have driven something to if the pointy end went into an iron lady they’d call the same thing
…I’ll take the francis urquhart defense, most likely
forget everything i typed. you’ve clearly taken advantage already. can you TRY to limit the use of it? it does put almost everyone else off.
for real, it does.
…I solemnly promise to go back to behaving myself in the morning…proph?
i dont intend to use it all mate…sure as fuck not on the current powers what be….they are not cuntworthy