Midweek Meh-Ness [DOT 11/10/23]

11/10/23 MegMegMcGee 50

Ok so the laptop has been sent off for service. Wish me luck that I will see it again soon.

Hope everyone is having an ok week!

Here we go

Israel at war with Hamas after unprecedented attacks
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-10-10-23/index.html

Trump news

After years of exaggerating his business assets, Trump confronts them in court
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/10/trump-fraud-trial-property-value-wealth/

Stonks!

Sam Bankman-Fried trial: ex-girlfriend says he directed her to commit crimes
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/oct/10/sam-bankman-fried-trial-day-five-caroline-ellison-testimony

Sprots!

‘Not the way forward’: NHL’s updated guidance includes ban on Pride tape
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/10/nhls-updated-theme-night-guidance-includes-ban-on-rainbow-pride-tape

Fingers crossed.

Powerball jackpot leaps to $1.73 billion as the prize becomes the second largest in the lottery’s history
https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/10/business/powerball-jackpot-1-7-billion-no-winner/index.html

Deranged or not?

Have a good one!

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    • …yeah…that would be weird to me…I can understand maybe wanting to be able to see the view out the window while lying in bed…or even having a theory about the light in the mornings & circadian stuff

      …but apart from the…I dunno…feng shui of it all (think someone once told me having your feet pointing at the door was like framing you as being a corpse laid out for burial or some such)…the pillows winding up on the floor would be a deal-breaker for me?

        • …they sell those “slow alarm” things that get brighter & use “daylight” bulbs to simulate dawn…& what with me & sleep being on the outs more often than not I’ve read some interesting studies that claim that sort of thing has some pretty significant hidden benefits in terms of countering a surprising number of conditions that commonly overlap in the trouble-sleeping stakes…pretty much all of which is attributed to being exposed to “dawn” whether artificial or the old-fashioned way

          …but I’m with you on that, I think…so if being lit up by the rising sun would have put my brain in gear enough to have remembered headboards exist that might be my loss…but…like mr jackson said in a diner one time “sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie…but I’d never know ’cause I wouldn’t eat the filthy motherfucker”?

          • We looked at getting one, but I just wake up. Usually around 3:30 and then every 30 minutes to an hour usually giving up and staying awake at 5. I used to wake up and see my father’s light on in his room at like 4 in the a.m., reading. I guess I get it from him, because if I don’t stay up drinking and sometimes when I do, I’m popping up at 5ish at the latest (or when I’m sick, like now, then it was 6.)

            • …aside from the morning light thing…another thing I’ve come across reading stuff about people being up all night is that in days of yore when the daily routine leaned harder on natural light…a night’s sleep for a lot (maybe most?) people wasn’t an unbroken thing?

              …like…you got up with birds, if not before…barely let up until dusk…had supper…crashed out…then woke up that way you sometimes do on the couch you didn’t mean to spend the night on around midnight…maybe had a snack or a cuppa & generally a bit of a potter about when you could let your thoughts settle & possibly consider things that you didn’t get a chance to during the press of the daily grind…& then back to bed ready to race the dawn chorus for your chance at the early bird’s worm

              …sort of like a reverse siesta?

              …so…if there’s any chance it might work for you…I wouldn’t necessarily tell yourself that sort of thing isn’t natural after a fashion that hasn’t been trendy in a long time?

              • Sleeping 7-8 hours, in two separate blocks, was the *best* sleep-wake schedule i ever had!

                Found out *years* afterward, that *that* had been the method people used for generations.

                I slept that way, back when I worked at the place that re-sold overstock & returned goods. We had to be at work at the warehouse from 6:30-3pm, for *some* godforsaken reason (owner was an Early bird, not a Night owl, obviously, and he wanted all his employees to be so, too…

                I am not one–i’d *much* rather STAY up to greet the dawn, then go to bed, thsn to GET up to meet it…. buuuuut a job is a job, and it was in my (former) field–sewing.

                So I got up at 5:15-5:30, showered/dressed/brushed my teeth, grabbed breakfast & my lunch, then hopped in the car (SUV back then, tbh!), and combed my hair & ate breakfast in the 20 minutes it took to drive to work.

                Drove *straight* home after work, and went BACK to bed for 3-ish hours (woke up at 6-7), and then I was up until 1-ish am. Slept 4-ish hours, and repeated on weekdays–getting up at 9-11 on the weekends.

                It was the PERFECT sleep/wake cycle, and I’ve never been more rested in my adult life!

                It’s honestly pretty close to what I did as a young child, according to my mom–even as a toddler, I’d sleep until around 10am, be up for a few hours, take a 2-3 hour nap in the afternoon, go to “bed” at 8pm, sleep three *more* hours, go out to the living room & watch Quincy ME, The Rockford Files, & Johnny Carson, and then go back to bed until morning.😉

                YES, I was *also* a strange child, i’m not *just* strange as an adult😆😂🤣

          • I have one of those alarm clocks that increases in light brightness for about 10 minutes and then starts an audio alarm if I don’t wake up first and turn it off.

            It’s a much gentler way to wake up, if that makes sense? Like I’m not jolting awake at a shrill alarm so much as just waking up to the light coming on.

      • Y’all just need to be shorter–then you can *easily* sleep that way, without needing a headboard at the other end!😉😂🤣

        I’ve basically been flip-flopping mid-nighttime for the last couple weeks–since we moved into the new place–so this is *sort of* me right now😆

        That’s why I have 7 regular-sized pillows & 2 king-sized ones–so I can flip back & forth if I manage to twist my back** during the middle of the night, and lay on my *other* side, with my back against a pillow on the wall, so my muscles relax by morning.

        And the bed it set up by the window-wall, because I’ve got a weird corner straight in from the door–where the furnace/ac unit is–because *that* was the only way I could set up the room, with my bed & my bookshelves, and still have access for maintenance to easily access the furnace.

        And that whole “being blinded by lights creeping around the edges of the blinds” thing is true, too!

        (And being 5-ish feet, sleeping on a 6+ foot long mattress helps make it easy to flip!)

        **sometimes I manage to twist so that my hips are sideways, but my shoulders are flat–or vice-versa, annnnnd then all the muscles in my mid-back size up. That’s right where I chipped those vertebrae a bit over a decade ago–so it hurts like *crazy* when it happens, and if it doesn’t get stretched back out correctly, I can barely *move* the next day… for some dumb reason, the flip-flop works waaaay better to remind my brain to *not* twist again, than just rearranging myself in the original direction & going back to bed.

    • I need more details to render judgement. Is this room on the first floor? If so, I can see this might work if you’re insecure about someone coming through the window. You want to make sure you wake up if that happens. I don’t like the idea of being backward from the door, but if the door is sturdy and the window really isn’t, it might make sense.

      So security is my first thought, but need more data. Maybe they want more space for exercise equipment or something else that’s not there yet?

      Making your bed in this configuration would be a bitch. There’s got to be some overriding reason for doing it like this.

    • I’m assuming they want a view, maybe some airflow from the window, and possibly some natural light to wake up to. But it is weird, and I have to think there are other configurations that would accomplish the same thing.

      But if that roommate sleeps well, I would think about doing the same thing in my room. 😄

  2. So . . . how many of us have consistent trouble sleeping? (Raises hand, a solid 5 hours is a rare win for me.)

     

    • How many hours of sleep do you get each night?
    • Are you able to take cat naps?
    • Will your brain just not turn off?
    • Do you dream while asleep?
    • Do you remember your dreams?
    • Do you know why you do not sleep?
    • If you are among the sleep deprived of DS, is there any technique, habit, drug, etc. that helps you to get a good a night’s rest?

    What say you, DeadSplinterites?

    • The amount I sleep varies but I rarely sleep through the night. When I do sleep I have vivid, often disturbing dreams. I find I sleep better if I take a nap but lately I have to much going on. There’s either too much noise in the neighborhood or I’m getting text notifications.

    • …let’s see now

      …variable but rarely more than 3-4hrs in a stretch without being awake enough to remember how long it took to not be again

      …used to be great at it…in addition to being able to sleep as a passenger in any vehicle (well, not so much the two-wheelers or what have you but air/land/sea kinds of “any”)…now…not on purpose as a rule?

      …have we met? (…this is clearly a trick question designed to take advantage of my sleep deprived state)

      …before I ditched it because it creeped me out & all it did was terrify me with the ballooning deficit that only went in one direction according to its “sleep debt” calculator the monitoring thing I tried for a while claimed I hit that sort of sleep for part of at least a few of my attempts over the course of any given night

      …but…compared to how seldom I can recall them when I’m trying to get up…it feels more like nearer-no-than-yes

      …some of the whys…I think so…although they vary based on a whole slew of variables not all of which I have even theoretical control over…so I don’t think I could pick a principal culprit?

      …as for the last question…ummm…back to the have we met, thing

      …I can hear a chorus of “don’t get him fucking started” like alec guinness when they blew up alderaan?

    • I can’t seem to get any sleep for a significant length of time. It’s broken up into chunks. One four-hour stretch from bedtime till about 2-3 am. Then an hour of reading or whatever until I feel sleepy again (sometimes two), then maybe back to sleep for two more hours. Or maybe I just toss and turn. My Fitbit tells me I got seven hours last night, which is rare, but I’ve had a cold or sinus infection or something that’s giving me serious congestion, so drugs.

      Since I work from home, catnaps are possible. I use a bedroom for my office and there’s a daybed in there. Sometimes when I’m just miserable I’ll stretch out for 20 minutes or so. I’ve got an audible notification for Slack so I can hear that and drag myself over to the desk to see who wants me. Problem is that I feel enormous guilt when I do that, and I can’t seem to shake that mindset.

      I’ve gotten to the point where if I get six hours, I call it a win. Four hours means a day of groggy misery.

      • Forgot to answer the other questions. Yes, I know why. Anxiety. I’ve got terrible anxiety ranging from small items (is the washing machine broken?) to much bigger issues. I don’t remember being quite this bad before the last time I got fired, but that’s always in the back of my mind now. A big part of that was that I didn’t see it coming.

        It’s not that I’m performing poorly at work, it’s just that I’m subject to someone else’s whims. The owners of my company could decide to sell tomorrow and typically marketing doesn’t make the transition. I’ve tried to protect myself as much as I can (savings, keeping my portfolio updated), but the thought of rebuilding my life again fills me with dread. I’m an old now in a field that has no interest in experience (for the most part). Finding another job would be really hard.

        I’ve tried taking anti-anxiety medication and that works, but too well. It’s not really a good idea to be super-relaxed about my deadlines, for example. And I wasn’t accomplishing much else either, like chores. I don’t function well without any sense of urgency.

        I do dream but lucidly. If I don’t like it I change the dream. Monster chasing me? I need a weapon and oh, look, there’s a machete. If it’s not lucid I don’t remember too much about it. Do I have control issues? Why, yes.

        My best technique for getting any sleep is exercise. I’m dealing with this cold thing now but typically I walk two miles a day. I need to upgrade that with additional time on the stationary bike. If it wasn’t disruptive to my family I’d get on the stationary bike when I wake up at 2 or 3. That won’t help with more sleep that night but it would help the following night.

        I probably should disengage more from news. Most of it is too big and there’s not much I can do. Climate change? I do what I can but it’s not much on a planetary scale, and my kid is going to have to live with this shit. Stuff like that also contributes to my overall anxiety. But I feel like I have to care and keep up on things.

    • Guh, not sure how many hours a night I average, but wake up several times during the night. A slim majority of the time, I can fall asleep pretty much immediately. Other times it takes 30-60 minutes. Every now and then I get up and work on something, especially if it’s something that might be the reason for my mind not shutting off when it should.

      When I do get several hours of sleep in a row (mostly around say 4-6 a.m.), I have vivid dreams that often leave me wishing I had just stayed awake.

      I do catnap at times, but lately I’ve decided to try to avoid that, since that means I typically just fall asleep later at night, thus seemingly negating the nap benefit.

      I wish I had tips for sleeping better. On the rare night that I have stayed away from screens, I might fall asleep a bit faster, but how to you really know that? And why doesn’t it seem to carry through the night?

    • I typically fall asleep easily and stay asleep barring thunderstorms etc.

      But also I have no internal monologue and I believe that’s a huge contributing factor for how easily I fall asleep. Also I almost never remember dreams, like maybe once a month I’ll wake up remembering a dream.

      • Brighter, I am SO envious of the “No inner Monologue” thing!!!!

        Thoughts & *words* are almost never NOT speeding around in my brain–at both the conscios & unconscious levels… which is GREAT for keeping up with the randomness of preschoolers & developing ideas to keep ’em occupied & out of trouble…

        But it’s HELL for calming yourself🥴

        • …this reminds me of a thing I haven’t thought a lot about in a long time & I’m not sure if I kinda still do it in a different way that’s less conscious or if it belongs in the category of “when I was a kid I used to…”

          …but when I’d watch a movie or read a book that ended before I felt like I was done with the characters…I’d just continue it in my head?

          …not in a writing fan fiction kind of a way because it wouldn’t have occurred to me to try my hand at that until I was old enough to have other things to be doing with my time…just…these people were there in my head & if the situation was like this…this one would say that…& that one would do this…& that’s how it would go until someone caused me to leave it alone…but I’d maybe come back to it later when it was time to go to bed

          …you might have just cracked the answer to ellie’s question about what the root cause of my problems with sleeping boil down to there, even

          …sort of hard to tell, really…but it’s funny what comes back to you sometimes?

          • “but when I’d watch a movie or read a book that ended before I felt like I was done with the characters…I’d just continue it in my head?”

             

            Lllololollllll!!!!😆😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

            WEEKS  of this, @SplinterRip, if not MONTHS (i.e., if it was summer, and there was nothing better to do!😉😆😂🤣💖)

            That was why I got into reading trashy romance novels, tbh–if I just read *those,* formulaic & trash though they be, I didn’t  keep myself up, *wondering* “what ELSE happened to _____?!?” and ruminating on that for those weeks!😆💖

            Trashy novel meant that the story *wasn’t* so engrossing, annnd I didn’t pull the plot points of the story into my nighttime “processing out” of the daytime thoughts (because THAT’S where the *really* WEIRD nightmares lie!!!!🤣🤣🤣), and then I can just move on to the *next* bit of formulaic trash, when *that* story is over!😉😁🤗

             

            • …there’s a specific genre of reading to my way of looking at it that I seek out sometimes…it sounds like it means drivel but sometimes it can be something excellent that I’m just particularly familiar with…but the scale it needs to tip the right way is for reading it to require less thought than it takes me to just sit there doing nothing?

    • 7.5 (ish) weekdays, 5ish weekends

       

      No

      Not during the day, unless heavily medicated.

      A bit but not much that I remember.

      I self medicated (I know) with a lot of weed for a long time, now we are bud free but vaping a lot less to ween off of it (various reason, ridiculous thing is it’s NY, and legal, and we just had the best crop we’ve ever had, ha ha) but I don’t feel, after first couple of days, that I’m sleeping any worse or having any more trouble getting to sleep. I read a little bit at night, and recently I’m falling asleep 3 pages in.

      • …in my experience…when in locales enlightened enough to make that sort of thing easy even at my steadily advancing age…some weed can be pretty helpful…generally finding it requires a whole conversation with whoever’s the other side of the counter…& then whoever they have to beckon over to answer because there only ever seems to be one person working who cares to be able to recall the answer in terms of what they have on hand

        …everyone wants to brag about the THC levels

        …but you only get the CBD numbers on the spiffy label they print you out after you’ve paid…& to help me sleep I’d favor a roughly equal split or the CBD content being more than the THC

        …the last time I had basically a fortnight of being able to pull off looking like a normal person who sleeps normally…it was in one of those sorts of places…& since at present that isn’t a locally available option…I imagine the next time might be, too

        …also…someone I know’s mother-in-law let me in on the part where that kind of mix is available in pill-form (maybe capsule/caplets as the case may be)

        …she swears by…I think the brand might be “trailways”?

        …but most weed I would say is at best neutral on the getting to sleep side of things…taking the edge off the frustration of not being asleep already though…does a pretty decent job?

    • I sleep OK. I get insomnia maybe once a week, and I think there is a connection to not cutting off liquids soon enough before bed. I remember snippets of dreams but rarely whole stories — for instance this morning I dreamt I had a call from a random real estate agent who had somehow gotten into my contacts list which meant I got the ringtone for people I knew. And that was it.

    • My husband relieved me of nighttime baby duties last week. It took my body/mind a couple of days to stop waking up every hour. Last night I successfully slept for four hours straight which is a huge win. I doubt I will be able to sleep for a longer stretch than that. Once I wake at 3am it’s hard for me to turn my brain off. I drift in and out of sleep until 5am thanks to anxieties which range in topics from the micro like my house and kids to the macro like global warming and Palestine. Also I drank wine last night which might have contributed to that nice chunk of sleep but I don’t want to have to rely on that in the future. I love dreaming. My dreams are always vivid and I can remember a lot of them. Sometimes I have recurring dreams. Most of my dreams are stressful. But I’m used to that and enjoy them in the masochistic way that people enjoy dark and depressing shows.

    • @Elliecoo, to answer the topic,

      1. Weeknights,, NOT enough lately–i got in a bad groove last summer, which was pretty close to my *natural* sleep pattern, that’s REALLY hard to shake, so I’m usually getting just 5-6 hours of broken sleep weeknights, and then crashing pretty hard on the weekend.

      2. Not *cat* naps–i isually need 2-3 hours if I’m gonna nap. But I DO wake up feeling fine & not groggy–i’ve been a 2-3 hour napper since I was a baby according to my mom.

      3. ADHD *and* autism… so NO, unless I’m medically sedated!😆😂🤣

      4-5. ALLLLLLLL the time!!! I don’t always *remember* the dreams if I get a full “sleep cycle” in–but I KNOW I dream regularly, because if I’m woken in the *middle* of a sleep cycle, I’m gonna be in the middle of some weird shit!😄

      *Usually* dumb things, and everyday things. I know from the times I’ve woken up in dreams, that it’s typically stuff that my *conscious* brain had toshove off to the side during the day–mixed with the stuff my subconscious was processing.

      And once in a great while, I *also* have the “time-slipping” dreams. I don’t know *WHAT else to call ’em… it’s *not* Deja-vu, because I have the dream *first*, and then I walk *into* that scenario later (months to years), and realize *this was that dream that made NO sense at the time!!!*

      The first time I remember it happening, was back when I was 18 and in college–i had a dream where I was in “a room with all these guys sitting around the edges of the room. There was a counter in front of each of them, and all of them *also* had a mirror on the wall, that had round white lights on each side, in front of them. I had *no* idea who SNY of the guys were, but they were all talking about “Shannon” coming…

      And then Shannon, a girl who lived on another floor in our Dorm building walked in & i woke up.”

      That dream was SO damn strange, that I told my roommate and some of our other friends about it, and NONE of us could figure it out…

      And then a few years passed, I moved to Minneapolis, got a job in the costume shop at a local community college, and was working on my first show.

      As I was putting old age akeup on one of my actors?

      The guys started talking about the wife of one of the actors.

      It was, “Shannon,” *this,* and “Shannon….” that.

      I looked up, looked around, and realized THIS was that “strange room–with all the Guys I didn’t *know* about 5 years before…

      So I was PREPARED, when Shannon from my college dorm walked into that room!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

      It’s happened a *few* different times, again, on & off over the years.

      Thankfully, only ONCE when “the Scene” from the dream was a funeral (THAT was the funeral of my friend Dan who died via suicide. The dream occurred in the chapel where his funeral was held. I woke up sobbing, but *couldn’t* remember who died–so I walked around for about two WEEKS making all my closest friends & family members PROMISE me they weren’t going to die on me🥴)

      6. *Usually* too much caffeine, or taking my Vyvanse too late in the day (or too much caffeine AFTER the Vyvanse!)… it *used* to be because of stress & too many thoughts running through my skull–but now I have an Rx for Melatonin to take care of that!😉

      7. Physical exhaustion/heavy labor, that Melatonin prescription, and if need be, *writing it DOWN*–because my Autism-brain will ruminate like a motherfucker, and just keep *looping* the damn thoughts *over&over&over&over* unless i commit them to paper, “for it to go back to.”

      Tbh, I hardly ever *bother* going back & re-reading the notes. But the act of getting ’em written down *does* stop the damn rumination-looping, that keeps me awake, and it allows me to fiiiiiinally fall asleep.

      Took me *way* to long to figure that hack out! But now that I DO know it, I grab a pen & paper, or open my Notes app, write *the things* down, znd I can fall asleep!😉

      • Also, i KNOW exaaaaaactly why my *overall* sleep has been so shitty for the past year+.

        Nearly all my life, I’ve heard the sound of snoring.

        Whether growing up in that damn trailer house, where Dad’s sleep apnea meant *forests* full of logs were sawn overnights, or for the 13+ years i had Lily snoring away like a bulldog with a deviated septum, doing her best impression of a boar😄😆💖

        But *without* those snores, I literally don’t sleep as deeply, nor as long as I used to, without that *audible signal* that “someone ELSE is here, too, and THEY will rouse if something is put of place, too”

        Without that cue to my brain as I sleep, I tend to rest like a parent of young-ish kids–never going *completely* under during the “dark hours” of the overnight, *just in case* something happens, and we need to get everyone (and the cat!) out of the building.

        Ngl, that’s kiiiiiinda why I want to get a dog again, as soon as I CAN justify it–just so I can finally SLEEP overnight again😉

        I sleep FINE during *daytime* hours, because I know my roommates are probably awake–it’s the *dark-time* hours where I so *obviously* do the “listening all night” thing, and wake up every time a sleep cycle end, rather than starting in on the *next* one.🙃

    • This is such an American story. America’s Sweetheart, after smiling and twisting herself up like a pretzel representing her country, doesn’t have health insurance. But it gets even better. Mary Lou is a staunch Republican. And even urged Sen Feinstein not to pass the Protecting Young Athletes from Sexual Abuse and Safe Sports bill of all things! Now she needs our help in the way of donations. Nope. I’m sorry she’s ill. And I hope she recovers. And when she does that she recognizes how her conservative views and votes led to the crippling medical debt that she and her family will experience. Maybe then she’ll use her voice to try to correct some of the damage  her party has caused. If what she has to say even carries any weight these days.

      • Ugh. I just looked up when she was lobbying to protect USAG, and it was after the Larry Nassar arrest.

        Not that it’s an excuse, but she was training with Bela Karolyi beginning when she was young, and there’s the phenomenon where sometimes victims of abuse can become the biggest perpetrators of it later on. But of course the overwhelming number of victims of abuse under USAG made the right choice to fight rather than follow her path.

      • Ah I didn’t know all that. That’s a shame.

        I had a high school friend who worked for one of the auto companies – great job, union benefits, all that. He got a glioblastoma, was able to retire with benes and full health insurance til he passed about two years later. Voted for Trump, widow is a staunch Republican/Trumper. Like what is the thinking there?!!?

  4. Yesterday one of the Ohio State wrestlers told NBC they were going to have Jim Jordan testify in court about what he knew.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/former-osu-wrestlers-say-jim-jordan-betrayed-shouldnt-house-speaker-rcna119116

    Earlier this year the Supreme Court let stand a lower court ruling that wrestlers could go ahead and sue Ohio State.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/supreme-court-rebuffs-osu-enables-remaining-sex-abuse-victims-sue-rcna87519

    Republicans are wishing this could somehow get swept under rug now and forever, but they can add it to their stack of court cases, and this one creeps people out.

  5. And speaking of creeping people out, the guy who inspired the anti-sex trafficking movie Sound of Freedom is being sued by women accusing him of sexual misconduct.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a378p/five-of-tim-ballards-alleged-victims-have-filed-a-lawsuit-against-him

    The movie starred Jim “struck by lightning while playing Jesus” Caviezel and was a huge hit with right wing evangelicals this year. The suit says the leader of the organization

    would begin insisting that he and his couples ruse partner had to build physical “chemistry” to fool traffickers, and would begin inviting them to shower together, participate in couples massages, “tantric yoga” and lap dances on Ballard’s lap….

    The suit alleges that Tim Ballard began claiming that President M. Russell Ballard, a powerful figure in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, had “given Ballard permission to do the couples ruse as long as there was no sexual intercourse or kissing on the lips, and had given him a special priesthood blessing as such.”

    In response, the LDS church countered

    Ballard had used the apostle’s name for his own “personal advantage and activity regarded as morally unacceptable.” While the church did not specify at the time what “morally unacceptable” activity was being referred to, that language is usually used to refer to sexual immorality.

        • …it really is…maybe the best bit of dystopian tv about surveillance states & AI I could point to in some ways

          …but he’s…like…not the only main character…but…right up there

          …god damn it

        • …still just as fond of the rest of them, last I checked…& it genuinely is my good fortune that I too did not know distracting amounts of stuff that messes with my suspension of disbelief the first time I took that particular ride

          …for reasons that I can’t put a finger on it’s also caused me to remember that although they only did maybe one or at most two seasons…the tv version of limitless was just so much better than it had any business being as to continue to defy my understanding in equal proportion to my inability to grasp why they cancelled the thing?

            • …the two are like oil & water…I mean…there’s elements in common & that character might show up a couple of cameo-grade times

              …but it’s more like…if you blended patriot with burn notice & had the protagonist be a guy whose natural environment was a couch in reach of a bong with maybe some shrooms to help differentiate the weekend from the weekdays

              …it was just…fun?

              …of the two I compared it to I think patriot is a better show…but burn notice was light…& had bruce campbell chewing scenery with gusto…& limitless was that kind of light without being corny the way…say… chuck was?

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