1.) I hate to admit it, but I knew this would happen. My coworkers have seen me taking peaks at political stuff, and the one thing that struck me was how Bernie adverse they were. Both of my colleagues are older, and both of them were, to put it simply, “Not about that Bernie life”. And that’s when I realized that the people Bernie has to impress isn’t people like me; it’s them. These are not unreasonable people. These two people of color who come from two different countries had both experienced situations with a leader coming to power swearing to have a revolution and to provide things for free to the populace without fully explaining how, and their countries both suffered the price for it. One of my colleagues’ country is in turmoil because the “President” (who is the son of the guy who was President before, go figure) is simply refusing to follow the country’s constitution. So, like, I get it. I get why they are skeptical of Bernie, and why they’d probably put their trust into someone like Joe Biden.
Both of my colleagues also said that they liked Elizabeth Warren. So why not support her? The paraphrased gist from one man and one woman, one from Africa and one from Latin America?
“America is too sexist to elect a woman. Everyone else in the world has and they haven’t.”
It’s not people like us that Bernie Sanders has to convince. It’s people like them.
2.) My mom and my sister both live in South Carolina, and I asked who they were going to vote for. My mom was split between Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren. My sister, who is just as progressive as I am, but also just as tired and skeptical of Bernie as I am, said that her first choice was Elizabeth Warren. Her second choice?
Pete fuckin’ Buttigieg. There is an ideological Grand Canyon between Warren and Buttigieg.
I love my sister dearly, so I didn’t want to get into the “WHY!?” with her. But again, she’s highly skeptical of Bernie, as is my mother, as is everyone I’ve asked in my family. Bernie was her last option. It was my mom’s last option. Hell, he’s my last option and I’ve been bitching about the Democratic establishment not giving him fair dues for like a month now.
3.) That leads me neatly back to Elizabeth Warren. You can already sense the narrative growing that Warren should probably back out of the race so that progressives can rally behind Bernie to give him a fair shot. But here’s my thought, based entirely on anectdotal evidence and literally nothing else;
I think Warren staying in the race helps Bernie, because I think there are way more Warren-to-Biden voters out there than there are Warren-to-Bernie supporters. I think Bernie’s uphill battle is once again with the people who see his policy goals as unrealistic and that he doesn’t explain them well enough. And the thing is, he’s gotten better at explaining I, but the “he won’t even explain how he’s gonna pay for the thing he wants to do!” talking point has wormed it’s way into popular consciousness. There are his overeager supporters who have been spewing bile and venom towards Warren since the jump, and the kind-of-incredibly-sexist position that Warren needs to explain everything while Bernie doesn’t have to explain as much.
Warren is the progressive who seems to be able to level with people and maybe change her position. On the surface she seems sensible. Bernie’s inflexibility is a detriment, and his supporters (some of them, not all of them) are overzealous idiots trying to shout down anyone who has a different opinion. I think what people want in a President is (*sigh*) someone who is willing to compromise, even if compromise doesn’t seem on the surface to make sense.
So yeah, I think more people will migrate behind Biden than Bernie if Warren drops out now. And if that happens, Sanders advantage disappears. I mean I could be wrong, but it kinda makes sense, yeah?
4.) Holy shit, fuck polls. Fuck them forever. After 2016, polls should’ve been banned. The fact that we’re still in these streets relying on polls to predict anything despite all evidence showing that their unreliable predictors of basically anything. Joe Biden’s South Carolina win doesn’t explain the huge bounce Biden had in states that most polls suggested he wasn’t competitive in. Biden wasn’t even supposed to be in the convo in places like Minnesota and Massachutes. Remember when Texas was basically a sure bet for Bernie? I sure remember fuckin’ yesterday.
5.) I think it’s pretty easy in situations like this to scream “WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE THINKING!?!” and simply give up and start hating people for being too callous/thickheaded/simple-minded to think about the consequences what they are doing. But I think what it boils down to is this;
- The internet is not real life and our opinions are still somewhat in the minority.
- People are fucking scared, man.
Barack Obama’s election came about when the country was in the mood for a huge, country wide policy shift after eight fucking years of George W. Bush and Dick Cheyney fucking literally anything and everything up. It felt like a moment, ya know? The moment when America was ready to say “well fuck, we NEED something different and new after all that shit.”
Now? Joe Biden’s comeback seems like a Hail Mary. America is down 6 points with 5 seconds on the clock and it’s got one play to save their season. Not to win the Super Bowl, but just to make it possible to maybe get to the Super Bowl, if the rest of the season goes okay. It is “holy shit, this country might actually be fucked if we don’t get Trump out of office.”
Fear is a powerful motivator, and it makes smart people abandon their well-reasoned convictions for the sake of survival. The coronavirus is spreading, the economy is taking a hit, Antarctica is having nice, warm spring days, and mass shootings are so fucking common at this point that they don’t even qualify as breaking news anymore. It feels at times like the world is fucking ending.
So when it feels like you’re death is imminent, maybe your first thought isn’t to the future. Maybe you don’t want a lofty world where health care is free and student debt is non-existent. Maybe you take the public option and pray like fuck that a new Secretary of Education can unfuck student loans so they’re less of a burden. Maybe you don’t get a Green New Deal, but you get a President who is at least willing to admit climate change fucking exists. Maybe you don’t get sweeping criminal justice reform, but you at least put a white guy in office and make white supremacists less likely to run over people in protest to brown people being a thing. Maybe you get a President who can at least make us feel a little bit better when a national tragedy occurs instead of talking about how great a job he’s doing.
People are scared shitless, and anyone who’s tried to reason with someone who is frightened knows how hard it is to get someone out of their head. When I was a child, my mom packed my lunch for school every day. After a few kids made fun of me for what I was eating, I became so paranoid that I didn’t want to eat around them. But she still packed me lunch, and I didn’t want my mom to get angry. And I didn’t want to waste the food. So I just let the lunches pile up in my locker. I would just leave them there. And once the entire hallways started to fill with stench from my rotten lunches, well, I couldn’t just take them out and throw them away. So I left them there until we had a mandatory locker clean out, and then carefully tried to hide the stuff I was throwing away. Then I started hiding them in my room.
Even today, I’ll go out and buy food instead of eat what I brought from home, because I don’t want to be judged. I’m going to be 33 in a week. I know this shit doesn’t make sense. But I do it anyway. Because my anxiety compels me to do a stupid thing.
That’s what you get in Biden. Not a lofty vision of the future, but a slamming of the brakes and maybe a return to something roughly approximating normalcy. I said that I don’t want to return to Obama era politics, and I mean that. But I can understand that fearful people aren’t thinking about the future, they are thinking how to get out immediate danger. And I would ask that you consider that today if you feel like you’ve lost a bit of faith in humanity or voters.
It’s just a thought.
Bloomie’s out…
There is a sprawling metropolis alone by the sea.
You became the rick dork in the middle of thee.
Cash remained a drug that’s the high and not the pill.
But did you know,
That when they vote,
Their thoughts become large
And the bullshit that you shine can be seen.
Mikey, I compare you to a prick from a rose on the gray.
Ooh, the more I get of you, the stranger it feels, yeah.
And now that your campaign is doomed.
A door hits your ass
On the way.
I got that reference.
*Insert Captain America Gif*
“America is too sexist to elect a woman. Everyone else in the world has and they haven’t.”
It’s not people like us that Bernie Sanders has to convince. It’s people like them.
That the conversation left you with this feeling, and not:
“It’s not people like us that Elizabeth Warren has to convince. It’s people like them.”
Is really proof to their point.
Warren appealed to progressive leaning centrists just as much as ideological progressives. If not more so. After watching ideological voters drag her on Twitter, Facebook, and any comment section on left leaning media, these voters are too afraid to vote for her. They fear another situation where we put a qualified woman up against the fasc, and lose due to sexism. And if you needed anymore proof that it’s sexism she’s up against, one only needs to hold up Bloomberg of all the mofos beating her last night. Fucking Bloomberg. A Republican.
I’m inclined to agree with your gut here, because mine is telling me the same. She was the consensus candidate, and would have built that consensus if Bernie could have put his new found ego aside and let 2016 lie. Instead we ended up with BS litmus tests and thinly veiled sexism, again. I will be voting for Sanders on the 10th. I will get no satisfaction when it turns out the majority of her voters Don’t turn out for Bernie. I’m just getting in with the “I told y’all so” (not you specifically) for everyone jumping on the “Warren needs to drop out” bus.
Be careful what you wish for.
We tried to tell everybody. Hell even HamNo tried to tell everybody. And here we are, at the predicted result. At least Biden isn’t Bloomberg.
People are fucking scared, man.
Yes. I think that’s pretty much the best capsule description I’ve seen of what’s going on in this election. People are scared and they’re gravitating to the familiar. Biden is kinda like McDonald’s. People know it’s bad but they also know exactly what they’re going to get. And after four years of insanity and chaos, they’re latching on to that comfort food.
I think I’ve pushed that metaphor about as far as it will go.
ironically, many of the Warren supporters I saw on Twitter yesterday referenced that they were drowning their sorrows in McDonalds( I was one of them).
I have a lot of thoughts and I’m going to wait until final tallies and some good analysis of exit polls to draw any grand conclusions, but I think you touch on an important point we have to face that we can see right now – people aren’t turning out to vote for Bernie in the numbers he (and we) need them to. They just aren’t. The youths haven’t turned out. So I have a hard time with people drawing conclusions that he is entitled to Liz Warren’s votes (which may or may not go to him – people are clearly not voting ideologically), or that this is the result of the DNC this or that or that something is afoot: there are challenges that he has been unable to totally overcome so far (it’s still early days, we can’t call it for Biden yet).
It’s true that the media has been insanely unfair to him and that the establishment is rallying against him; it’s also true that he has a shitload of money and very dedicated volunteers all over the place. But all the obstacles that he faces now, he will have to face in the general. There is no legitimate reason to believe that if he can’t overcome them now, he could in the general.
Also, if a lot of his support is not from registered Democrats, they needed to register as Dems in a lot of the states in order to vote for him. That means a colossal amount of energy needed to be expended in getting people to change their voter registrations to vote for him. Also, when you are a registered Democrat, Democratic candidates have access to your email and phone number and address and shit. His people didn’t have that advantage because so much of his support comes from independents, and they couldn’t as easily be directly reached.
So all of that, yes, is a failure of our system, but is also something that must be dealt with to win an election within that system.
Like you, Warren is my first choice and it looks like I won’t get the opportunity to vote for her (my primary is a month away still). I’d rather see Bernie than Biden by a long shot but it’s easy to understand why Bernie turns some people off. As exit polls are saying – people are supportive of M4A and also voting for Biden. Bernie’s positions are popular and he as a person just may not be. Which is fucking stupid but it’s not new. A friend of mine had a theory that Biden has gotten all these last minute deciders because those people are tired and wanted to vote for someone they think would just make them have to think about politics less. I think there may be a lot of truth to that. I am pumped up and energized by the prospect of a progressive political revolution and a shakeup of the establishment; a lot of people are probably really sick of being shaken up and are choosing comfort and security over big goals.
I hate it, but it makes sense. And this is what oppression and authoritarianism do – they sap people’s energy and beat them down.
I agree with your assessment that (to paraphrase and editorialize a bit) Biden is the candidate of fear.
He’s also proven to be a candidate for the olds.
Bernie’s support with every demo under 30 has been massive. Participation is nearly 2x what it was in 2016 in some states and a lot of that is younger voters finally coming out en masse.
If you look at some of the county breakdowns, what you see is Biden doing well in smaller population areas while Warren and Bernie often trail into 3rd and 4th.
Recent trends in demography have seen young people concentrating in cities and leaving the smaller counties.
So those small counties skew old and are thus big bases for Biden.
What this election is then, in terms of a broad narrative, is a debate between scared old people and young people who are more interested in doing something new.
I think most young Warren supporters could be swayed towards Bernie if she lent him her support and dropped out (fingers crossed). If that happens, Bernie will pick up much larger margins of victory in cities.
There’s still a chance at a progressive candidate. It all hinges on Warren at this point.
How that will play out is anyone’s guess.
I think that’s one of my points though; I don’t know if Warren dropping out helps Bernie as much as people assume it does. Warren appeals to a lot of centrists who lean progressive, who are turned off by Bernie’s “all-or-nothing” approach. Those voters fall closer in line with how Joe Biden thinks than Bernie Sanders.
I really think that occurs even with younger Warren supporters. People shouldn’t be overeager for Warren to drop out if they really want Bernie to win.
“People shouldn’t be overeager for Warren to drop out if they really want Bernie to win.”
Agreed 100%.
If Warren drops out, there is every chance party pressure would have her muted, if not forcing her onto Joe’s bandwagon.
If she’s *in,* she can still go out there talking about her (And Bernie’s!) issues as much as she wants, and get folks to understand what he means to do.
PLUS her in the race means that, at the Convention, a *DEMOCRAT* would be the one suggesting the progressive planks be added to the party’s platform (she WOULD have leverage to add them there, because both Joe & Bernie want her on their side!), which means that even if Joe DOES get the nom, Bernie’s/Elizabeth’s policies would be the ones the party strives for.
There is LEVERAGE and strength,in her staying in for as long as possible. It keeps those Warren/Biden folks from simply rolling Biden, and it AMPLIFIES Bernie’s viewpoints, because someone *else* in the parryis also pulling in the truly progressive direction.
Biden is definitely the safe bet, especially for the older generation. They know him, they’re comfortable with him, he makes them laugh. It’s also hard to put someone up on a pedestal when they make a lot of verbal gaffs and for some reason, that’s something people like.
Warren, on the other hand, comes across as that disapproving teacher that knows you’re playing a game on your phone when you should be doing your homework. And Bernie is that angry uncle who always gets in a fight at the dinner table at Thanksgiving. You kind of agree with him but you’re never going to admit it.
Fucking optics, man. They’re going to be the death of us.
One of the things that really drives me crazy is that every single person I talk to who uses the word “electability” seems to have completely forgotten that Trump himself was the rule that shows “electability” is utter bullshit. He answered the same call on the right that Bernie has been answering on the left. You’d think someone would have noticed that the old ways aren’t flying anymore.
Lastly, I think a lot of people are genuinely afraid of Bernie dropping dead. And I think that’s a valid concern. The one thing I don’t like about Warren is that she’s freaking 70. And now we have COVID-19 flying around and people of their age are especially in danger. Biden is also old as hell but at least he looks vital.
But the question I have is this: What if the virus gets really bad and all three of them get killed by it? What happens then?
Trump AND Obama prove that electability is bullshit – I mean, sure, Obama was an incredible speaker who really touched people in a unique way, but on paper he was the absolute opposite of electability.
People voting for electability are making me insane. YOU ONLY KNOW WHO’S ELECTABLE AFTER THEY GET ELECTED.
One thing about Warren – you don’t like that she’s 70 but Biden and Bernie are CONSIDERABLY older than that (and men). It doesn’t make sense to use her age as a factor in this conversation when her opponents are older.
Yes, she’s considerably younger than the other two. Especially considering even after two terms in office she’ll still be younger than Bernie is right now. But a 70 year old trying to get what’s arguably the most stressful job in the world is still less than ideal. It doesn’t matter that much to me though…I still support her 100%.
Dear fucking GOD, THIS!!!:
“People voting for electability are making me insane. YOU ONLY KNOW WHO’S ELECTABLE AFTER THEY GET ELECTED”
If folks just 👏GOT👏OVER👏THEIR👏DAMN👏SELVES👏, GAVE less of a shit about “WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK(GASP!!!!)” and VOTED FOR THE PERSON THEY BELIEVED IN, Warren wouldn’t have had such shitty turnout.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
But because every asshole and their siblings is concerned about *whether next person will do,* HARDLYANYONE is apparently voting for the damn candidate they LIKE and prefer.
I’m not just seeing this narrative here on DS, I’m seeing it on news media sites, too.
And it makes me Motherfucking ANGRY, because if folks would simply remove their heads from their sphincter, they would get clean air long enough to see they’re being goddamned DUMBASSES.🤬🤬🤬
Yeah, whenever I run into someone here in NH who explained that they voted for Klobuchar in the primary instead of Warren because they thought she had a better shot I had to clench my teeth to keep from saying or doing something inappropriate.
This has, unfortunately, happened a LOT. I’ve been losing my mind.
> Biden is also old as hell but at least he looks vital.
Vital? A lot of times he can’t speak! He mumbles like fatty…
Looking is not the same as sounding. 🙂
Looking at the last poll for MA from Swayable (March 1st & 2nd) Bernie hit his number of 27% (538’s Ave was 29%). Warren out performs the poll but is within 538’s average of 25%. Not sure how much early voting goes on there but Biden had to be expected to get the bump from the dropouts. Polls are a pretty good indicator of what to expect.
I’ve been voting for Bernie types since 1988 and gave up hope of a win but always thought it was possible to get to 5% for federal funding. Another reason Citizen’s United was a puch to the gut. Factor in not enough people checking the box on their 1040 to fund the program and a few hundred thousand dollars wouldn’t buy much today anyways.
Appathy has always existed and I don’t see it going away. No Voting Rights act to protect those that need it. The next position I’m supporting going forward is to lower the voting age to 16 (i’d like 14 but i’ll compromise). I think if we can get the youth engaged before they leave home/school the more likely they stick with it, like excersise.
I’d also support breaking up Texas and getting DC & PR statehood as discussed on this pod…
http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/21-divide-and-conquer
and dove a bit deeper here
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisionist-history-presents-deep-background-noah-feldman/id1119389968?i=1000465366695
oh well…back to yelling at clouds.
I have to interrupt your cloud yelling to agree with you and to say further that any US territory should have full and equal representation in Congress. But the GOP will make sure it never happens (Hello, Reapportionment Act of 1929. I see you’re looking good.)
And speaking of 538, they aggregated a few polls showing that Warren is underrepresented in the middle, relative to her general numbers. That runs counter to the OP, but feels right to me. And I think more Warren voters would back Bernie than Biden.
Now, back to the sky raging….
PR and DC should absolutely be states. We also need to push to abolish the electoral college and the senate
I have A LOT of thoughts.
I don’t think a Biden win against Trump is a win as much as it is a prolonging. Nothing changes for 4-8 years until the GOP take over from exactly where they left off.
…maybe not nothing…but I can see where you’re coming from…even his side of the aisle don’t see him as part of the team which would cost him some
…but if all he did was walk back as much of the bullshit as possible while overseeing the dismantling of trump et al through every court in the land
…I could live with that?
Biden will not replace RBG with another Gorsuch or Kavenaugh. Biden will appoint people to head agencies who know how to do their damned jobs. Biden will begin to mend the damage Trump cozying up to dictators has done on the international stage. He’ll quit trying to deport the Dreamers at the very least. This is just what I can think of off the top of my head.
While I’m sure that Biden will not give the country the true change it needs, I’m confident he will at least do his damndest to roll back what Trump has done in the past 4 years. Which is progress now that Trump spent the past 4 years trying to burn shit down.
It’s always worth remembering that LBJ wouldn’t have done half as much on civil rights if activists hadn’t been on the front lines challenging the right. Women’s rights, gay rights, environmental laws — they all depended on activists pushing the party past baby steps.
Which is all to say no president is going to do a lot by themselves unless activists lead the way. Biden would certainly be a big improvement over Trump, but progressives will need to do the heavy lifting, strategizing, and organizing to get past the ground level. It’s almost always been that way and always will, even if Sanders goes all the way. Change can happen, but it takes a lot more than a president to make it happen.
That’s something else that President Obama didn’t capitalize on when he got sworn in. He pretty much left his entire organization to go off on its own, where it eventually withered. He should have fully engaged with the people who got him elected to hit the streets and demand broader changes. But, he was too interested in trying to get Republicans in Congress to vote with him and gave away the store instead.
If a Democrat wins they have to rethink the way campaigns are run. Putting big donors first only plays into the GOP’s hands, because the Dems will always be playing catch up. The challenge is that long term grass roots organizing has never been done on a presidential scale, but continually giving big donors an effective veto over policies keeps stripping winning issues away from Democrats.
Obamacare was weakened a lot because Connecticut insurance companies were given too much say un the final product. Financial reform was watered down because NYC interests got too much say. And within two years the Democrats were struggling to show what they had done for actual voters because they were too hung up on apppeasing big donors, who ended up funnelling huge donations to the GOP anyway.
“It’s always worth remembering that LBJ wouldn’t have done half as much on civil rights if activists hadn’t been on the front lines challenging the right. Women’s rights, gay rights, environmental laws — they all depended on activists pushing the party past baby steps.”
And ^^^this^^^ point is EXACTLY why the Veep choice is going to be VITAL this election.
If Joe becomes the nom, and the Veep pick is Buttigieg, the progressive agenda is… at *minimum* harmed IMMENSELY. But if it was a Veep Abrams, Castro, or Warren? Advanced considerably.
Folks forget that LBJ had Humphrey as his Veep, doing a LOT of the heavy lifting–while there was some REALLY shitty stuff Humphrey authored re “subversives” and communists, there’s ALSO the good stuff–the 1948 convention speech & insertion of the plank to end racial segregation *in 1948(!)*;
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/huberthumphey1948dnc.html
Annnnnnnnd then there’s this little nugget that *MOST* folks forget about the Civil Rights Act:
“He was the Senate Majority Whip from 1961 to 1964. During his tenure, he was the lead author of the Civil Rights Act of 1964,”
YES, Johnson did a bunch of strong-arming, and was the man who ultimately signed the bill.
But it was The Happy Warrior, *Humphrey THE VEEP,* who *WROTE* that bill…
Plus, frankly, with the age of the top 2, we NEED that Veep focus, because the Veep very well *could* end up taking over🤨
Yeah, the Veep choice can be hugely significant if they do it correctly. I think it’d be a huge mistake for them to choose Mayor Pete if Biden wins the nomination. They’re too much alike and going to appeal to the same population. But Bernie would be a poor choice due to his age and health and I’m not sure Biden would want to let someone as dynamic and outspoken as Warren anywhere near him.
Sweet Jesus, let it be Castro.
A young, charismatic person of color who both holds progressive values AND was a part of the Obama administration. Plus he’s a much better orator than Joe, and can show Joe is willing to be gracious to a guy who superkicked him into oblivion during the debates.
Biden is kinda like a firefighter when the house is on fire. He isn’t going to get you a brand new nicer house but he might keep the current one form burning to the ground with all your belongings in it.
Not so sure. The Trump phenomenon, like any form of demagoguery, has a short lifespan. For whatever cosmic reason exists, he has been allowed to tell lie after lie and get away with it. It was true when he was a private citizen and it didn’t change when he got into office. But that same behavior wouldn’t be tolerated of anyone who attempted to copy his act. As shocked as I am that he has made it this far into a first term without being impeached (AND CONVICTED), forced to resign or simply dropping dead of bad health, his hold over the party will have an endpoint. Then what? The rich white guys at the top of the party will turn the backs on the poor white Trumpets who supply their party with needed votes. And life will go on.
I mean, that’s the thing. Biden has an INCREDIBLY fuckin’ low bar to clear to just get America back to “meh, it sucks, but it’s okay”. He at least will, ya know, hire people who actually know what they’re doing. He’ll be able to talk to our allies without pissing them off. He won’t constantly shit on the troops and call them cowards. Maybe he adopts a couple slightly more liberal positions along the way. I won’t wake up every morning trying to see if this is the day the President starts a nuclear war.
I don’t want Joe Biden as President. I don’t. Like, at all. But if literally he does is, like, run a somewhat functioning government that doesn’t step on a rake every fucking day, it’ll be a massive fucking improvement.
Also, I don’t know who the fuck the GOP is going to put out there when/if Donald Trump is gone. No one can match his inability to give a fuck about literally everything, and everyone will climb all over each other to pretend to not be Donald Trump. The GOP’s ideas are unpopular and their chosen ones are uncharismatic, unlikable, contemptible shitheels. That’s the whole reason why Trump even became a thing. If the GOP had a candidate worth a single, solitary fuck, Trump (probably) doesn’t happen.
I wish I were as confident in Biden as some people are. I agree that he won’t actively make things worst and that on average, he should be better than the Toddler just by doing almost nothing. Sure, he’ll pick someone nominally better than Trump would to replace a Supreme Court Justice should that case arise but will compromising Joe really make that great a choice if McConnell is still there to gum up the works? I think he’ll end up picking someone just to the right of Moderate so that he’ll be able to get it through.
Here’s the thing. On an average day, Joe Biden would do an average job and everything would be, on average, okay. But Trump is on the process of setting the goddamn country on fire and Joe Biden is no fucking fireman. People have a LOT more faith in his ability to put the fire out than I do.
Sorry for the double post!
I think if everything was average, Biden would be a perfectly average President. He’ll not make any waves, certainly not make anything worse and maybe improve things a little bit.
But things aren’t average. Trump is setting the country (and the world) on fire. And I just don’t have any faith in Biden’s ability to get the fire out. He’s not a fireman. Assuming McConnell is still in control of the Senate (and I’d be shocked if he isn’t), Biden will have to deal with McConnell to replace a Supreme Court Justice. And sure, he’s compromising Joe…he’ll get someone in place. But I would bet anything it’ll be a Justice somewhere to the right of center. Because Joe doesn’t believe in fighting for anything. He believes in making deals and getting along.
Will that be better than Trump’s choice? Absofuckinglutely. Will that save us? No fucking way.
Sorry for the double post! I really liked my fireman analogy and tried to write it again when the first comment vanished into the ether.
…it’s a nuisance…not least in that it was a problem that had been solved only to recently reappear…but on the upside there was a way to fix it last time & doubtless will be again in due course…in the meantime we’ll try to keep shaking them loose when we find them & your patience is appreciated
My guess is they will run Romney back out there. I just can’t wait until the GOP completely turns their backs on Jr, Ivanka and the rest. They really think these people are loyal to them and they will absolutely toss their asses in the water as soon as they are of no use to them.