TGIF! [DOT 17/2/23]

Hope everyone had a great week. I was crazy busy at work; looking forward to a 3 day weekend. I’m getting a haircut and I have a “Galentines’ Party to go to. Should be fun!

Let’s see what else is going on…


Hope he feels better soon

Sen. Fetterman checks himself into hospital for clinical depression
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/16/fetterman-hospital-clinical-depression/


All I can think of is this “The Simpsons Movie” scene
‘Trust the government’: EPA seeks to reassure Ohio residents near toxic spill
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/16/east-palestine-ohio-derailment-toxic-chemicals-epa-meeting


Stonks!

Stock futures slip Thursday night as inflation data, Fed officials’ comments worry investors: Live updates
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/16/stock-market-today-live-updates.html


This is more of a USPS timeframe

Letter lost in 1916 delivered in London more than 100 years later
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/feb/16/letter-lost-in-1916-delivered-in-london-more-than-100-years-later


For the Calvin and Hobbes fans around here


Gimme!!


Have a great day!

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19 Comments

  1. Most Republicans support Christian nationalism (maybe?):

    https://www.npr.org/2023/02/14/1156642544/more-than-half-of-republicans-support-christian-nationalism-according-to-a-new-s

    To be honest, I’m a bit skeptical of this study. It cites a survey of 6,000 people, and samples of that size always get me wondering, because you typically don’t need that many in a simple survey. That’s not to say good methodology isn’t involved, but as a snapshot I’m a bit unsure. The methodology suggests they had trouble getting Republicans to participate, but it’s not clear at all what that really means.

    I also think it shares a basic fault of the surveys that right wing editorial writer Jason Willick used to claim that conservatives were more tolerant of opposition speech and federalism than liberals — it fails to normalize against actual behavior. Attitudes about abstract ideas sometimes are very different from actual behavior. For instance, being a Republican voter and claiming that you support free speech but then voting for people like Trump and DeSantis is an obvious contradiction, and should offer a method for discounting GOP responses.

    For all we know, GOP adherence to Christian nationalism could be a lot higher, but if many survey takers know that driving up poll numbers is bad PR, they’ll say something else.

    At best, I think this study works as a counterweight for the kind of propaganda that Willick was promoting. We don’t know the real numbers of GOP thirst for conservative Christian domination, but we can at least say it’s significant, and it runs directly contrary to the kind of universal values that Willick pretends he sees in his base. Seven times as many Christian nationalists report supporting violence for political goals as non-supporters, which matches patterns of Republicans saying they back the 1/6 coup attempt.

    This still doesn’t give a good sense of how far Republicans answers skew from the truth. But it gives a good sense that Willick’s PR is just junk.

    • …part of me wonders if there’s a lot going on with the term “christian nationalists”…I expect there’s probably some sort of sect-style narrow definition of it as a “church”…but mostly when I come across the term it reads as a euphemism?

      …we saw people who stridently proclaimed themselves more-christian-than-thou while not blinking at any of the many credible examples that “their president” provided copious evidence of being a man more sinning than sinned against…so…it’s not a genuine faith kind of a thing…in which case it boils down to another bad faith stalwart…my “religious rights” are protected…so I’m delighted to inform you that the tenets of my faith as I interpret them just so happen to encompass the things I wouldn’t be eligible to say or do without censure by my peers for being an out & out hateful asshole…plus now I can get in on this whole cottage industry of nominally-religious politically-partisan grifting…it’s a whole lifestyle package…so I guess depending on your definition your range of statistical significance is a bit of a moveable feast?

      Many Americans are unfamiliar with the concept of “Christian nationalism,” and among those who have heard of it, more people express an unfavorable view of Christian nationalism than say they have a favorable impression of it. Nevertheless, like the descriptions of Christian nation, Americans’ views of Christian nationalism envision varying levels of Christian influence on the nation, ranging from strict theocratic rule to merely embracing moral values such as helping others.

      [https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2022/10/27/views-of-the-u-s-as-a-christian-nation-and-opinions-about-christian-nationalism/]

      …throw in the part where on the political side that creepy AF bunch behind that national prayer breakfast racket have their own selective edit…to press an innocent princess bride quote into service beneath its dignity it’s their idea of “the good parts version” of the bible…&…it’s a slim volume…like…even if you skip all the “& methuselah begat” stuff & what bill hicks referred to as “that wacky fire & brimstone ending” you couldn’t slim the bible down that much…netflix had/has a documentary/series about them…called “the family”

      https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/15/the-family-netflix-powerful-sinister-christian-sect-trump

      …& apparently…throw in that online echo chamber bonus round…& that’s how you get overtly nazi-centric homeschool groups on telegram…which, to your point, includes a good deal of focus from a very young age on what in other contexts is referred to as code-switching

      …so I guess I’d buy that it’s a thing worthy of some degree of concern & consideration…that’s plausibly both pernicious & more widespread than it might be comfortable to contemplate…but I’d still expect that roping together everyone you could find a way to describe as a christian nationalist…including just being more likely to include being noticeably “christian” as a required checkbox for people you’re happy to vote for…you’re going to round up a lot of people for whom there’s very little consciously going on that indicates a lot of the stuff that motivates the full-blown nazi end of the thing…in terms of professed adherence to the faith coupled with politics that amount to being nationalist even if in their practical specifics they’re essentially parochial…I think you could make an argument that you’re sketching out something approaching the territory of what that letter from birmingham jail called “the white moderate”

      I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White citizens’ “Councilor” or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direst action” who paternistically feels that he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

      …they’re certainly champions of that “negative peace” if nothing else…I dunno…that letter touches on some things about the role of the church in public life…along with some observations about life among nazis…so…maybe that’s all stating the obvious…but I can see how from all of it you might come up with the sort of hypothesis that study was trying to assess?

      • The thing that a lot of researchers rarely acknowledge is how  meanings of questions can be awfully cloudy to the public. There’s a lot of research on the issue in the abstract, but almost no effort to address it when it comes to specific surveys.

        What can help is things like when survey results are discussed in context of similar surveys, results are measured over time, or they’re normalized against concrete actions.

        One instance of malpractice I read about is regarding Jeff Gerth’s “Russiagate” propaganda piece. One of his central claims is that public trust in media cratered after Trump-Russia ties started hitting the news.

        Except someone checked, and the dope was comparing two different surveys using different terminology for its questions, but Gerth  treated them as continuous results. Within the data sets, there was a minor drop, but in at least one case similar to what happened in other countries.

        That’s almost as bad as comparing an approval rating on a scale of 1-10 to a different approval rating on a scale of 1-5, and then saying in 2015 a politician scored a 6 but in 2016 he only scored a 3.

        CJR editor Kyle Pope should have caught that. Either he’s bad at his job, or he’s favoring his bias. Or both.

        https://justthesocialfacts.blogspot.com/2023/02/trust-me.html

  2. welp..seems the HR woman decided to use her last week on the job to fuck up and give me a hobby for the weekend

    i assume the intent was to send her replacement a list of everyones names and email adresses….but what she actually did was cc the list to every employee in the company…

    i do believe my boss and a few of the other wonks need to be signed up for some interesting spam and newsletters now

  3. Updates continue to come in from the latest filings in the Dominion lawsuit against Fox for lying about their voting machines.

    https://www.reuters.com/legal/dominion-voting-systems-says-fox-knew-vote-rigging-claims-it-broadcast-were-2023-02-16/

    It:s a gigantic body of evidence that Fox is just a propaganda network.

    Naturally, Fox won’t change lacking some miracle. But what’s more dispiriting is that the political press will continue to act like there is no Fox effect on politics.

    The right will simply be upset about the next Democratic issue, and the press will simply refuse to cover who caused those fainting spells.

    • …every so often it sort of boggles my mind anew…there’ve been people on the BBC payroll who’ve got in trouble or even lost their jobs for their actual views on a thing being expressed publicly…as though they can only say/think things within the supposedly objective non-partisan BBC they represent to the public & they don’t get to express a private opinion in public

      …that kind of thing is considered to be “woke insanity” by pretty much the exact same people who ought to be shocked to discover that they’re honest broker of “facts” & his “just asking questions” schtick thinks you’d have to be an absolute fuckwit not to know the answers aren’t the ones he alludes to but the ones he claims aren’t true

      …so they think these people should be able to express a personal view distinct from the stuff they’d say professionally in air…but they don’t think it matters how much the one contradicts the other…so either they think tucker is a moron who hasn’t got the smarts to see the stuff he’s paid to say is the one true faith…or they don’t care that he thinks they’re morons

      …but a guy who used to kick a ball for a living suggesting that another guy who kicks a ball for a living using what influence he has to pressure the government into providing food to school kids going hungry…that’s unacceptable evidence of left wing bias in media

      …it’s like some sort of cognitive hamster-wheel…which for reasons that continue to defy my understanding may also be the nearest we’ve come to a perpetual motion engine

      …the world’s a hell of a place

  4. I’m surprised Emo the World’s Neediest Person didn’t block that “beaver eating cabbage” post on twitter or somehow get shoved into the feed.

    Goes to show having all the money in the world doesn’t cover up one’s (in his case gigantic) flaws.

    • I have barely gone in, but yes it’s incredible.

      The docs for the Sarah Palin vs. NY Times case weren’t as nuts but they were still wild. One of the interesting thing is how much the Times just goes by the seat of its pants, randomly deciding at the last minute that something would be good to write about, dumping the job on someone with no subject knowledge, and then letting company politics muck even that up.

      And they’re 100x more rational than Fox.

  5. I’ve been on my phone hitting refresh every 3-5min, since 8am. Such are the joys of securing summer childcare (camp). At the very least, the camp could let us know what time registration is scheduled to open.

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