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1. Oh God. First the pickleball craze, now New York is being taken over by golf simulators. (Times article is out from behind paywall. Read away.)

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2. As a guy who went through a typical puberty/adolescence, I always thought flagpoling meant something else.

   https://archive.ph/DyKZA#selection-3535.0-3535.70

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3. It still kind of annoyed me when some folks (not here) who should know better kept on about how the billionaires would save us (even here in Canada City)

   They won’t. They will never.

   They were never  on“our” (as in common folks) friends, even Soros, especially when Kamala said they were going to tax them a mere 1-2% of their total wealth (to be blunt, they should be taxing the shit out of the ultra wealthy even more.)

   Also don’t ask the military to save democracy either. Bound by role and tradition to serve the civs, not the other way around (thankfully.)

   The people (looking at those in the mid West) that should have already failed.

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4. …do you ever have those moments when you run into someone else’s reaction to a thing & it’s so different to yours that it takes you a while to get that it’s talking about the same thing?

   …I sometimes admit that vegetarians are a morally superior form of humanity & that one of the greek dudes that was big on trig said so long enough ago that it maybe shouldn’t be surprising…& how I’d like there to be lots of them because I’m honestly partial to a good steak given half a chance…& a long time ago…like…30 years or so…I ran across a rough & ready calculation that pointed out that while there is objectively a lot of water on the planet there’s more than a lot of us & at some scales malthus undersold the deal about boundaries…so if you added the “diet of the average north american” attribute to the “population of china” column…the number it spat out just for the amount of water required to raise enough grain to provide the necessary quantity of livestock would exceed the sum total of all available fresh water in the world

   …&…this is from maybe half that long ago

   After several decades of rapid rise in world grain yields, it is now becoming more difficult to raise land productivity fast enough to keep up with the demands of a growing, increasingly affluent population. From 1950 to 1990, world grainland productivity increased by 2.2 percent per year, but from 1990 until 2009 it went up by only 1.3 percent annually.

   …between ’50 & ’90 the global population moved from 2.49 billion to 5.33 billion…which is around the 2.85 mark to that 2.2…with the latter part runing at going on 1.6 to the 1.3…we’re up to 8.16 now & “the UN medium scenario” is guessing we peak this side of 2100 a little north of 10.25 billion…&…we do pretty good at keeping pace in some senses

   The growth rate over the different periods is fairly stable around 2.7% per year. As a consequence, production has tripled compared to the 1960’s.

   …that part’s from a different thing…an EU brief about world agriculture…from almost 10 years ago

   In developed countries overall production growth is slowing down since the sixties. This is due to the approaching of physical production limits and/or increased competition from developing regions, making it economically less interesting to grow certain products. The steady replacement of basic grains by other food products is noticeable in the cereal growth rates. Oilseeds demonstrate the most dynamic growth, explained by favourable market and policy conditions. Milk production seriously suffered from the disintegration of the former USSR, while meat production growth is also decreasing over the long run. This can be associated with the attainment of limits to genetic potential, the effect of quality and environmental requirements, shifts in the diet, increasing production costs as well as increased competition from the developing countries, most notably Brazil and Argentina.
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   The developing world shows a more dynamic picture. Growth rates are much higher, but production starts from a lower base. These numbers point out that future production expansion could mainly be expected in the developing world. As in developed countries, growth rates for meat also show a steady retreat over the last periods, while dairy is recovering.
   [https://agriculture.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2023-03/agri-market-brief-08_en.pdf]

   …going back to the thing that’s 5 years older than that, though…for want of a handier set of comparative numbers

   While the effect of population growth on the demand for grain is rather clear, that of rising affluence is much less so. One of the questions I am often asked is, “How many people can the Earth support?” I answer with another question: “At what level of food consumption?” Using round numbers, at the U.S. level of 1,763 pounds of grain per person annually for food and feed, the 2-billion-ton annual world harvest of grain would support 2.5 billion people. At the Italian level of consumption of close to 880 pounds, the current harvest would support 5 billion people. At the 440 pounds of grain consumed by the average Indian, it would support 10 billion.

   Of the roughly 1,763 pounds of grain consumed per person each year in the United States, about 220 pounds is eaten directly as bread, pasta, and breakfast cereals, while the bulk of the grain is consumed indirectly in the form of livestock and poultry products. By contrast, in India, where people consume just under 440 pounds of grain per year, or roughly a pound per day, nearly all grain is eaten directly to satisfy basic food energy needs. Little is available for conversion into livestock products.

   Although we seldom consider the climate effect of various dietary options, they are substantial, to say the least. Gidon Eshel and Pamela A. Martin of the University of Chicago have studied this issue. They begin by noting that for Americans, the energy used to provide the typical diet and the energy used for personal transportation are roughly the same. They calculate that the range between the more and less carbon-intensive transportation options and dietary options is each about four to one. The Toyota Prius, for instance, uses roughly one-fourth as much fuel as a Chevrolet Suburban SUV. Similarly with diets, a plant-based diet requires roughly one-fourth as much energy as a diet rich in red meat. Shifting from the latter to a plant-based diet cuts greenhouse gas emissions almost as much as shifting from a Suburban to a Prius would.

   Shifting from the more grain-intensive to the less grain-intensive forms of animal protein can also reduce pressure on the Earth’s land and water resources. For example, shifting from grain-fed beef that requires roughly seven pounds of grain concentrate for each additional pound of live weight to poultry or catfish, which require roughly two pounds of grain per pound of live weight, substantially reduces grain use.

   …&…maybe I really just picked it because it keeps alive my chance of getting a camel-sized portion of steak through the eye of the ethical needle

   When considering how much animal protein to consume, it is useful to distinguish between grass-fed and grain-fed products. For example, most of the world’s beef is produced with grass. Even in the United States, with an abundance of feedlots, over half of all beef cattle weight gain comes from grass rather than grain. The global area of grasslands, which is easily double the world cropland area and which is usually too steeply sloping or too arid to plow, can contribute to the food supply only if it is used for grazing to produce meat, milk, and cheese.

   …maybe it doesn’t do it for you but that’s basically solace for me

   Beyond the role of grass in providing high-quality protein in our diets, it is sometimes assumed that we can increase the efficiency of land and water use by shifting from animal protein to high-quality plant protein, such as that from soybeans. It turns out, however, that since corn yields in the U.S. Midwest are three to four times those of soybeans, it may be more resource-efficient to produce corn and convert it into poultry or catfish at a ratio of two to one than to have everyone heavily reliant on soy.

   Although population growth has been a source of growing demand ever since agriculture began, the large-scale conversion of grain into animal protein emerged only after World War II. The massive conversion of grain into fuel for cars began just a few years ago. If we are to reverse the spread of hunger, we will almost certainly have to reduce the latter use of grain. For perspective, the estimated 114 million tons of grain used to produce ethanol in 2009 in the United States is the food supply for 370 million people at average world grain consumption levels.
   [https://grist.org/article/2010-11-09-improving-food-security-by-strategically-reducing-grain-demand/]

   …hell, in ’16 mother jones re-ran a piece that phrased it as “If the rest of the world ate like Americans…, the planet would have run out of freshwater 15 years ago” based on an assessment by nestlé…this…well, ok…maybe it’s new to a bunch of people but it’s not “new”…the world economic forum said a bunch of stuff in ’17 that probably at least a few people read who didn’t help write

   Over the past two decades, China’s prevailing diet has shifted away from grains like rice and wheat in favor of richer animal proteins and a wider variety of exotic vegetables. As Bloomberg reports, this change has left the country short of land on which to grow produce and raise livestock.

   While the Western diet typically demands about one acre per person, China has only 0.2 acres to devote to feeding each citizen. Meanwhile, the country consumes 50% of the world’s total pork supply.

   “The rapid rate of industrialization in China is really chewing up crop land at an alarming rate,” Lester Brown, founder and president of the Earth Institute, told Reuters. “China is now losing cropland.”

   In an effort to meet the growing appetite for new foods, the country has turned its attention outward. But the solution isn’t as simple as importing more food from abroad – unless the world begins accommodating food production for 9 billion people. Instead, the Chinese government has started leasing farms in North and South America, Australia, and Africa. In some cases, it has bought the land outright.

   Launching factories in more industrialized countries has also allowed China to capitalize on newer technology and higher standards for storing perishable items. These efforts help improve the quality of China’s food production, which has been an issue in the past – the Shanghai Food and Drug Administration has had to shut down meat-processing factories on numerous occasions because they were using expired products.

   But even that strategy has its limits.

   Population experts predict that an additional 2 billion people will live on the planet by 2050. Many of the biggest spikes in population will be in areas outside of China – developing regions in South America and Africa, in particular – where the country has set up offshore factories for food production.

   In solving its own problem, China may inadvertently put much greater strains on the global food supply. Some evidence suggests this is already the case with the grains the country imports to feed cattle, according to USDA research. Producing one pound of beef requires seven pounds of grain, the Earth Institute finds.

   Of course, China isn’t the only country adopting a Western diet – it’s merely the latest superpower to do so. The most straightforward way for people around the world to ease the global burden this diet creates is to consume less of the animal protein that requires so much land and water to produce. Even eating other livestock, such as poultry or pork, would ease the demand for feed.

   But as China expands its international food operations, the risks of a widening food crisis only continue to build.
   [https://www.weforum.org/stories/2017/06/china-is-facing-a-food-problem-and-the-western-diet-could-be-to-blame/]

   …so…when I run across this sort of thing

   As China’s appetite has grown, the government in 2021 made the creation of domestic alternative protein industries part of its national economic development strategy. It’s become a central component of wide-ranging plans to achieve food security, and funding is pouring into new research initiatives.

   …I can see it a few ways, I guess

   Sure, the geopolitical rivalry with the United States is almost certainly part of what is motivating China; it wants to become self-sufficient in food in case tensions with the United States worsen to the point of war.

   …like

   The age-old way of producing meat – clearing forests to feed vast herds of greenhouse-gas-emitting livestock whose flesh is shipped through global supply chains – is hurting the planet. If scientists can figure out how to affordably cultivate meat in a lab at scale, it could become the standard mealtime fare of tomorrow. It might have to. And if China is willing to invest in technologies with potentially global benefits, Americans should view it not as a national security threat but as inspiration for how our protein markets could evolve, too.

   China has excellent reasons for wanting to ensure that its huge population has enough to eat that have nothing to do with the United States. Older Chinese generations still harbor painful memories of mass hunger in the decades before China’s era of economic reform began in the late 1970s. President Xi Jinping has reminisced about going to bed hungry in his youth, with nothing but soup for dinner. He has called food security “a red line that would trigger terrible consequences were it ever to be compromised.”

   …that sounds about right to me…in so far as it seems to make some sense…&…if it makes sense…well, then

   Chinese official concern about food appears to be rising as the nation’s dietary needs grow and relations with the United States deteriorate. China has nearly 20 percent of the world’s population but less than 10 percent of its arable land. Its dependence on imported meat and other agricultural items, especially U.S. products such as soybeans  (a key source of feed for China’s giant pork industry), worries Beijing, especially with Donald Trump threatening to start a trade war and U.S. military strategists identifying Chinese dependence on American meat as an Achilles’ heel.

   …some other stuff would sort of follow on from there…even at less per head…that many heads add up to a bigger number of…err…head

   China’s rising demand for meat and other foods is tremendously consequential for the rest of us, too. In 2021, China accounted for about 27 percent of global meat consumption, twice the U.S. amount, and Chinese demand is climbing fast. Economic growth is allowing the country’s people to enjoy richer and more varied diets, and as a result, today’s Chinese are bigger and taller than their ancestors.

   […] Today the sector accounts for 10 to 20 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, and world meat consumption is expected to keep rising for decades as other developing nations follow China into higher-protein diets. As Patrick Brown, the founder of the U.S. plant-based meat producer Impossible Foods, put it in 2020, “Every time someone in China eats a piece of meat, a little puff of smoke goes up in the Amazon.” Such sentiments have stirred resentment in China. Its people are as entitled to a high-protein diet as anyone, and Chinese eat less meat per person than Americans do. […]

   China’s goal is the holy grail of meat: commercially viable alternatives that taste as good as the real thing and can be produced at scale but without the emissions, production costs, land use and risk to supply chains of animal-sourced meat. In the United States this idea has inspired big promises from manufacturers and billions of dollars in venture capital funding over the past decade. But reality is setting in as industry players discover that producing cultivated meats in volume is far more difficult and costly than expected. China, with its state-directed approach, may be in a better position to crack the code. We have seen what its scientists and engineers can do when state planners put their minds and resources to solving difficult technical problems.

   China remains dependent on many technologies developed in the West. But its unique ability to use subsidies, regulatory assistance and its enormous domestic consumer market to turn those technologies into affordable products is unparalleled. China observed Tesla closely, greenlighting Elon Musk’s Shanghai manufacturing plant, which began production in 2019, before marshaling its own carmaking industry to produce much cheaper analogues. China has raced ahead of the United States in renewable energy and is increasingly supplying the rest of the world with solar panels, wind turbines and electric cars.

   The government is taking the same all-out approach on food security. Besides alternative proteins, it is stockpiling food imports and pushing forward on genetically modified crops. China is also employing innovations such a  salmon farms in landlocked Xinjiang; pork skyscrapers where pigs are housed, fed and slaughtered on an industrial scale; and unmanned farms where drones and other automated equipment plant, fertilize and harvest crops.

   Many Americans remain skeptical about proteins derived from nonanimal sources, but Chinese have been eating one of them – tofu – for a while now. It’s hard to imagine Chinese diners completely giving up meat, but when the government goes all in on something and prepares the public for it through state-controlled media, the people usually fall in line. If it can come up with a protein solution embraced by its own consumers, chances are this made-in-China version will go global, like its solar panels and electric vehicles.

   …so…sure…I’d see that being the sort of thing it would make sense to show up in the news from time to time…& for it to be a subject to which legislators would direct some thought & attention…sorry…should direct some thought…but…apparently the whole game & all the marbles only cover the demand for attention as far as what’s incoming is concerned…& they have a very specific brand of attention that’s their only currency…so…what lit me off down this whole “wait, that’s not how I remember thinking that looked…” thing…led off like this?

   In late September, 11 Republican members of Congress wrote to the directors of national intelligence and the Department of Agriculture’s Office of Homeland Security to warn of the latest threat emerging in China. They said China seeks to become the world leader in production of meat alternatives — part of a “targeted attempt to dominate global food supply chains” that could pose an urgent threat to the food security of the United States and its allies.

   …by NYT standards the headline wasn’t particularly click-bait-y or anything

   China Is on a Quest for the Holy Grail of Meat. Let’s Hope It Succeeds.

   …but…like…that’s what you might call a non-trivial problem…& those are hard with 3 bodies…not going on 3billion times that many…if it’s a “targeted attempt to dominate” for somebody to be in a position to pick up the slack required in forcing a big enough yield out of the globe to keep everybody more or less fed…& the US & europe have pretty much maxed out the potential output…is it less of an “urgent threat” to the food secuity of the US & its allies if nobody fills that gap on the supply side?

   …maybe I need someone to draw me a picture…in crayon…because from that opener I wasn’t sure it was talking about the other thing & not working up to make out how much better it would be if the impossible meat guy were in a similarly commanding market position trying to scale up their production state-side to provide for dominating quantities of supply to the chinese market & wondering how that was imagined to work…with tariffs…& only 4/5 of the currently available agrarian workforce

   …& I flat out don’t want to be this grumpy every day for the next four fucking years?

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   • Yeah I took an Introduction to Agricultural Science class back in like 2005 in college and even then the stats about how much US grain crops are literally just to feed livestock is disgusting. It doesn’t help that the appetite is for more more more cheap cheap cheap meat. Like you can buy pasture raised animal meat, but then we’d have to accept that it’s going to be significantly more expensive.

     The environmental impact of large scale livestock production is just horrible in general. I’m not saying everyone needs to eat like a medieval peasant all the time, but it’s the one industry where consumers could very easily make an impact.

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     • …like…what even is the point of fetishizing the cowboy on the range the way that is if you aren’t going to make out like anything less than free-range, grass-fed isn’t even red-blooded american red meat?

       …oh…no…wait…it’s the guns & shooting people whose faces aren’t pale enough & being fine that one dude owns more of everywhere than you can see standing tall in your stirrups…right…those are the bits they throw in the mix with their messiah for the AI to turn into an NFT like nobody ever invented the term “abomination”…right?

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5. …my mistake…it wasn’t next friday

   https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/29/crypto-entrepreneur-justin-sun-eats-banana-art-he-bought-for-6m-dollars

   …or next tuesday…even if after that I’m feeling like something got knocked into the middle of next week

   …apparently he also offered to buy 100,000 of the 25¢ bananas from the dude with the cataracts…so…offered that guy’s boss around the guy’s entire annual salary…as a magnanimous gesture neither of them will feel any change from the way that reads…but the stall-owner is presumably delighted about?

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6. News from Ireland:

   Mr. Harris, Ireland’s youngest ever leader at 38 years old and so adroit with social media that he has been called the “TikTok Taoiseach,”

   If I could go back in time and it was 2020 when we were all locked down I should have gone to Duolingo or something and learned a foreign language. I would love to learn Irish or Gaelic or Welsh (if King Charles could do it, so could I) but sadly I’m a little busy now and my attention span has shrunk to the size of a runner bean.

   I actually read something, I can’t remember where, that said some 40 million Americans claim direct Irish descent but it’s not true. Or of all the people claiming Irish descent 40 million claims aren’t true. Who is tracking this?

   Is claiming Irish descent the new Rachel Dolezal or the loons/grifters going around claiming Native heritage? There’s a saying in New York, and maybe this is universal, that everyone is Irish on St. Patrick’s Day. Which is fine, but to keep this up over a lifetime verges on…there’s a term for this mental illness but I can’t remember it and google is junked up with unhelpful search results.

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   • …it’s not a term I find I break out often but apparently a sub-set of broadly that mis-appropriated (& often mis-construed) cultural heritage deal is described by some as being a “pretendian“?

     …speaking of the irish, though…I mentioned the other day having finally watched the movie about that kneecap trio that are a bit beastie-boys-meets-shankill-road…&…fun fact…when she was in a previous post under a conservative government kemi badenoch denied them a grant for being on record that she & they don’t agree on the home rule thing…&…well…it’s like this, apparently?

     Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch has said it is “unbelievable” that the Labour government have decided to no longer contest a discrimination case brought by Belfast rap group Kneecap.

     The group won its case against the UK government over a decision Badenoch took when she was a minister to withdraw an arts grant.

     The group was awarded £14,250 – the same amount they were initially granted.

     A government spokesperson said said the decision was made not to continue contesting the band’s challenge as “we do not believe it is in the public interest”.

     They added: “This government’s priority is to try to reduce costs and help protect the taxpayer from further expense.”

     Badenoch described the move as “yet another cowardly decision after giving away the Chagos Islands“.

     “Labour will always capitulate rather than defend UK interests,” a spokesperson for the Conservative leader added.

     The decision to block the grant, taken by Badenoch when she was business and trade minister, was described in court by Kneecap’s barrister as “unlawful and procedurally unfair”.

     …but…fuck me…£14.25k…that’s what she says is equivalent to “giving away the chagos islands”?

     …I dont want to say kemi comes off a bit uncle ruckus…even if it does seem like she wouldn’t be necessarily unwilling to don a MAGA cap…but…bit like what I was saying the other day made me fond of chester p…for a bunch of hellraising fenians like the ones sam neil had a problem with in peaky blinders only with more drugs & tracksuits & less waistcoats & shillelaghs…I kinda like them more than I like her?

     The band said it would split the £14,250 equally between two youth organisations who work with Protestant and Catholic communities in Northern Ireland “to create a better future for our young people”.
     […]
     Kneecap have also antagonised unionists in Northern Ireland – one of their best known records is called Get Your Brits Out, a parody rap in which the band go on an imaginary, drug-fuelled night out with prominent members of the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP).

     …they remind me of the satanic temple lot that do stuff like claim the right to have a dioarama by the nativity scene in the lobby of city hall…& think reproductive rights are a thing?

     In statement following Friday’s court hearing, band member DJ Próvaí said: “For us this action was never about £14,250, it could have been 50p.”

     The group said its motivation for taking the case was “equality”.

     …& kemi…reminds me of…things I find less appealing

     “Labour would rather waste your money than stand up to a group of Irish republicans who go to court because the UK government won’t hand them cash.”

     …like…how the UK government isn’t even lobbing a few grand at the likes of these

     Kneecap have said it will split the money awarded to them between two Belfast charities, Glór Na Móna in Ballymurphy and RCity Belfast on the Shankill Road.

     Sarah Jane Waite, director of RCity Belfast, expressed the charity’s thanks for the “generosity and support from Kneecap”.

     She said the donation will be used toward a number of projects, including both local and international programmes.

     Meanwhile, Conchúr Ó Muadaigh, chairperson of Glór na Móna, said the support of Kneecap would have a “lasting on our work with young people and the Irish language revival here in west Belfast”.
     [Badenoch blames ‘cowardly’ Labour for Kneecap settlement]

     …& maybe it’s not going to do more to fix the troubles than 200 sleeping bags doled out to homeless people in central london for as long as they can hold on to the things solves that annual winter crisis…but it’s like the part where chess went back “normally thursdays” with a bag of stuff people had said they needed the like of & a big thermos & talked to homeless people as he went about doling out the contents before taking an empty bag home with anything left in the thermos…one looks like a thing I don’t have to try to give respect…the other I struggle to…even if my instinctive reaction to whittling the UK down by a kingdom or two is to think it might not do any of its constituent elements the favors they imagine…which ought to make me instinctively ameanable to her whole pitch?

     …also…not to sound like a dangerously-dated chris rock…but…like the man said

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     • Oh yes, “Peaky Blinders,” Cillian Murphy, one more reason to learn Irish. Those eyes. Those beautiful blue eyes. Also Irish firebrand Branson from “Downton Abbey” who drags Lady Sybil off to Dublin during the Easter Rebellion. Why not? I’m sure Lady Sybil would have fit right in. Never mind that her family’s acquaintances probably owned half the country because of their lavish and little-visited estates.

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   • Pretty much every white person in St Louis who has had family here since before 1950 claims Irish, Italian, or German descent. Often all 3.

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     • Well, we can fly to Frankfurt of Lufthansa from here but failed to snag the direct route to Dublin on Aer Lingus, so that should tell you who came out on top.

       (Couldn’t get the direct route to Vancouver on Air Canada, either, but we still seem to have Toronto at least: Yeah, we’re coming for YOU, Manchu!)

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       • The non-stop to Frankfurt was only added a few years ago after Bayer bought Monsanto as part of the company agreement to make it easier to have execs come and go. Nothing to do with immigration patterns.

         I think we’re down to only the 1 daily non-stop to Toronto though. Or maybe there’s 2 but only seasonally?

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         • Yeah, I know but Germany’s still (gonna?) Germany, man!

           And I think the flights to Frankfurt started about two and a half years ago, yeah, because I remember that the inaugural one was shortly after I got back from Spain. (I probably wouldn’t have taken it anyway, though, because American at least used the terminal where I could take a Cercanías train and get to the town outside Madrid next to the one where the thing was happening.)

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7. Family values on full display!

   

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   • do any of the 12 like him?

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     • At least one has gone no-contact with him, if I recall correctly. One of his kids is trans and I’m sure you’ll be shocked to learn Elon was a douche about it.

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       • yeah i had heard about that one

         kinda why i doubt any of his kids want anything to do with him

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         • Well I’m willing to bet that none of them live in squalor.

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           • plenty happy people live in squalor

             i dont know how many happy people have elmo as a dad

             but im betting its fewer despite the money

             i rest my case

             (i love wonky math)

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           • His trans daughter is dead to him, so if any of the kids aren’t rich, it’s definitely her.

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             • Well I’m not even talking about rich, just not totally destitute.

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               • Oh 100%, none of those offspring are cutting coupons.

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8. no bargain hunting for me…tho we do have black friday nowadays….im always pretty broke this time of year tho…

   not that it matters as we already had our own black friday of sorts in may….this being a crapitalist country…the corporations are well aware when everybody gets their annual holiday pay

   novembers black friday is just a bonus cash grab

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10. fwiw…….ive come to the conclusion my anti americanism isnt helpful

    i dont particularly care… but now ive gotten most of the initial shit out of my system….ill keep it to myself

    none of yous deserve to deal with it one top of everything else

    so you know…..just my normal snark from here on

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